What Would Have Happened If Pereyra Had Scored The One-on-one At 0-0 In The Cup Final?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by ITK platypus, Jan 11, 2021.

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What would have happened?

  1. We still lose but it's at least credible and dignified, something like a 1-3

    34 vote(s)
    46.6%
  2. It's irrelevant, we simply lose 1-6 instead of 0-6

    28 vote(s)
    38.4%
  3. We would have dug in, frustrated the 'Citizens' and recorded a historic 1-0 win or a draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  4. We turns up the heat and end up thrashing City 6-0

    3 vote(s)
    4.1%
  5. Micah Hyde

    7 vote(s)
    9.6%
  1. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    If Sir Bobby Charleton and Alan Ball hadn’t have been substituted I’m sure we would have won the game and the upcoming Final!
     
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  2. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Champions League Winners for sure. Best owner, CEO and scouting programme in the world. Clubs beating a path to the Vic in order to discover the magic formula. Deeney chief football correspondent of The Times. Gracia Watford Mayor for life, statues of Giraldi in Thornhill Plaza. Oh I could go on.....
     
  3. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    We were already sliding well before that defeat. Many hoped, optimistically, that the slide was because the players were saving it all for a blockbuster showing at Wembley, at the biggest game in our club's history. Instead, they were just fed up with trying hard.

    In many ways, the combination of fortune, brilliance and timing which saw our semi final turn around heralded the biggest false dawn I can remember.

    We left Wembley thinking we were heading for 7th place, Europe and the outside chance of a trophy, whilst giving one of the big boys a bloody nose.

    We were like kids, unwrapping a big looking Christmas present, with anticipation and excitement, only to unveil a steaming turd.
     
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Which, ultimately, we all knew was in there all along.
     
  5. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Which made it all the worse. We got our own hopes up, despite the stench.
     
  6. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    The other Cup Final we got to:
    Everton were a poor side that season, nearly knocked out in, I think, the third round by Oxford. It was the season we didn't have Blissett. We lost Rostron pre-match to a dreadful refereeing decision at, of all places , Luton. Gray fouled our keeper in scoring the first. Their second was mis-hit in off a post. We could, and should, have won that.
     
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  7. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Except that we were poor on the day (first twenty minutes or so aside).

    Everton won the league the following year, of course, so clearly weren’t that poor a side.
     
  8. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    The problem (as Jimmy hill said at the time) was we had our small/little club mentality and were just happy to arrive in the final, we didn’t have the cutting edge on the day, together with having no luck!
     
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  9. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.
     
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  10. Shakespearo

    Shakespearo Reservist

    Gray's goal was the second. Even if it had been disallowed, I doubt we'd have got back into the game.

    One thing that does stand out from that, ahem, "goal" now though is how Steve Sherwood's arms-in-air complaint action has been perfected regularly by Troy Deeney.

    Everton second goal at 6:23.
     
  11. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Well, that was rather my point - we were poor on the day.
    That was next season. The first half of the season Everton fans were calling for Howard Kendall to go. Andy Gray pulled them round and they finished seventh, five points ahead of us.
     
  12. Abdi

    Abdi Academy Graduate

    Andre wasn't born then, but to be fair it probably was still his fault somehow.
     
  13. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I was there that day in 1984 and despite the result it was a great day out.

    In the first 15 mins we could have scored 3 goals, but after that Everton were probably the better team :( However I still say that Grays so called goal should never have stood, and I had actually forgotten that Mighty Mo had put the ball in the net only for it to be disallowed for offside.

    I also remember that our fans gave about a 15 minute rendition of "Elton Johns Taylor Made Army" at the end of the match, far out singing the Everton fans who had just won the cup :cool:
     
  14. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    I would be surprised if such a thought entered even your head during the euphoria that followed the semi final. Even before there were little if any signs of the collapse to come, our league form going into the semi was decent and the form between the Huddersfield and Everton home games was patchy but even the worst performances were better than many in the following season. And our often maligned defence was actually decent against non-top six opposition when we kept 11 men on the pitch.

    The board still can't be absolved of blame because they should have known more than most that if you stand still you go backwards, more so if you finish a season the way we did 2018/19 and they should have spent some money in the summer of 2019 on two full backs and a striker.
     
  15. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    The thing I remember while leaving Wembley that day was being very confident that we would be back in a season or two to have another crack at it. I never dreamt it would take 35 years.
     
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  16. inayellowshirt

    inayellowshirt From the other place

    Barnes header in the early exchanges of the 1984 cup final.... we would have gone on to win
     
  17. "Have my baby Johnny Barnes" was the song of the day.
    The flag waving was generally disappointing compared to Citeh.
     
  18. Yes and the Taylor or Jacket shot that was deflected wide. Everton grew into it and once ahead barely gave us a shot.
     
  19. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Reservist

    At least we got that moment where we could dream. Most clubs our size never get that.

    I think deep down we all know Watford will never amount to anything, but it's nice to dream every now and again.
     
  20. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yeah, but don't you think it could and perhaps should have been different? We had it within our grasp but just turned our nosed up and went on a spectacular slide.
     
  21. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Me too. We were simply an unbelievable team to watch. Full of pride and passion. Bassett single handedly tore the soul out of our club. For the love of me still can't understand some of the decisions he made player wise. Kevin Richardson and Bardsley are two that still irks me.
     
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  22. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    And Falco.
     
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  23. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Did he get a hatrick on his home debut?
     
  24. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Yep we beat Villa 4-2. All 6 goals in second half I think!
     
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  25. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I know he scored six goals in his first five games. I remember a "6-5 Special" headline!
    Imagine a Watford striker scoring at that rate these days.
     
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  26. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    GT was starting to really add some talent to our already excellent team. Tbh I wouldn't mind a striker hitting the target that many times tbf.
     

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