What Would Have Happened If Pereyra Had Scored The One-on-one At 0-0 In The Cup Final?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by ITK platypus, Jan 11, 2021.

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What would have happened?

  1. We still lose but it's at least credible and dignified, something like a 1-3

    34 vote(s)
    46.6%
  2. It's irrelevant, we simply lose 1-6 instead of 0-6

    28 vote(s)
    38.4%
  3. We would have dug in, frustrated the 'Citizens' and recorded a historic 1-0 win or a draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  4. We turns up the heat and end up thrashing City 6-0

    3 vote(s)
    4.1%
  5. Micah Hyde

    7 vote(s)
    9.6%
  1. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Reservist

    This is the big question, relevant to the here and now.

    What would have happened?

    It keeps me up at night. Geri breaking down the right, squaring to the unmarked Argentine, he just has to lift it over the keeper to give Watford an improbably lead and send Hornets fans into dreamland. But the shot is smothered and hope soon evaporates.

    Goals change games. Football is all momentum. Man City were fearsome front runners, once they took the lead they could just power away. But had we scored first, I just wonder. At the very least we probably would have avoided the humiliating scoreline, which many think contributed to the wider downfall of the club.
     
  2. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    You're not the only one. I think that had that gone in, we would have played very differently for the remainder of the first half but I think they would have unlocked us eventually and we would have ended up losing but with a more respectable scoreline.
     
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  3. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    KDB might have come on earlier and that Argentine striker City left on the bench ...

    So probably not much difference but we might have kept going had it been 2-1 at HT for example .

    Also if Doucoure hadn’t got booked early he might have made more of an impact .
     
  4. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    With that change in direction the game changes. Maybe we lose by less. Several months later a Man city fan decides not to make a business trip to Beijing. Some one at the Beijing company who has lost out in business decides to retire and doesn't change jobs and go to work in Wuhan China. He doesnt buy any bat. We never have to hear the word Covid and I don't have do MS Teams meetings. The world is completely different but Andre Gray is still an appalling footballer
     
  5. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Academy Graduate

    The game would obviously been different from that point, "the butterfly effect" & all that. I still reckon they'd have stuffed us though.
     
  6. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    It's hard to imagine anything else but a handsome Watford win, and us going on to win the title the following season, after signing Manolo Gabbiadini in the summer.
     
  7. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    It would have been 1-8, tough afternoon for The Hornets.

    But we'd have still waved our flags furiously and in protest, telling the world we'd be back.

    I'd have hated to have missed that momentous club changing ******* moment.
     
  8. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Oh I know this one!
    Is it "the fish"?
     
  9. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Why bring this up again? Took me ages to get past it all, what a **** day that was.
     
  10. Lloyd

    Lloyd Reservist

    Just when I was beginning to get over it. That'll be another six months in therapy. Thanks very much
     
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  11. In our hearts it's clear we would have gone on to win, signed Ings and Richarlison in the summer (who joined as they wanted to to join a club with the desire to win silverware). Sadly it's not possible to ever prove it.
     
  12. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    It would of been 6-1 instead of 6-0


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  13. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    I can’t believe that one game had a contributory effect to our getting relegated, despite others’ understandable claims to the contrary. We had three months to get over such a defeat and it’s not like we lost on penalties or in the last second of extra time after being ahead (West Ham is a great example of that and perhaps why they nearly got relegated the following season).

    If we’d lost by just two or three goals, we’d still have had the same lacklustre start to the following season with unfit players and too many players lacking hunger after feeling they had no more to prove.
     
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  14. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    You can't put "Micah Hyde" as an option in a poll and expect me not to click it!
     
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  15. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    We'd have lost 6-1.
     
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  16. Irishorn

    Irishorn Gael Force

    I’m afraid I have to agree with the 6-1 answer.
     
  17. The Whoosh Magnet

    The Whoosh Magnet Academy Graduate

    I reckon we would have held on until half time and then unleashed the Gray machine in the second half.

    Watford 8 (Pereyra 11, Gray 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, Deeney (P) 89, Deeney missed pen 90+2, Deeney sent off 90+3) - Man City 0
     
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  18. Stanley_Rous

    Stanley_Rous Academy Graduate

    Always felt had it gone in we would have conceded by half time. And would have conceded 3 or 4 in the second half. Still have been a twatting. Still have gone down.

    I think our biggest cup ‘if only’ remains the QF home to Sunderland in the league cup ‘85.
     
  19. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Honestly I think we would have hung on for a while but conceded just before and then just after half time with City getting a third later on.
     
  20. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    We don't get penalties m8
     
  21. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Good shout. The other teams left in were: Chelsea, Sheffield Wed., Grimsby, Norwich, Ipswich and QPR. Norwich beat Sunderland in the final and both were relegated.
     
  22. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Academy Graduate

    "If only" the ref had been brave enough not to give a pen with Rush did a swan-dive a couple of minutes from time, in a desperate attempt to avoid defeat in the FA Cup QF the following year
     
  23. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    It doesn't matter. We all know our "Final" was beating those gimp mask wearing losers from the black country. What happened after was going to happen regardless, but it's nice to think it may of gone differently. Oh, I still have my Wembley Flag.
     
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  24. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Everybody knows you don’t poke a sleeping bear.

    It was much better that we simply accept our fate, roll over, and take our lube-free pounding like the good little losers we are.
     
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  25. I think if we had lost that game we wouldn’t have capitulated in the league, with a final to look forward to, and may have finished 7th. We wouldn’t have started the following season in a sulk and wouldn’t have been relegated. Felt great at the time but winning that game cost us everything IMHO.
     
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  26. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    I don’t remember this at all. Although, looking it up, I had been at the 4-1 win against West Brom in the previous round. I guess I shrugged off, just assuming we would have another decent chance at a Cup again.
     
  27. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Bigger one is still why no penalty for the ball hitting Kompany on the arm.

    My own 'what if?' from the game is what if Javi had picked Janmaat rather than a woefully out of form Kiko?

    Who then went on to be beaten in the air by Silva...
     
  28. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    My memory is that Sunderland played very well on the night, backed by a large noisy away support, and deserved the win, while we didn't really turn up.
     
  29. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Reservist

    Typical Deeney performance.
     
  30. Abdi

    Abdi Academy Graduate

    Good shout but the semi against Palace in 2016 tops it for me. We finished above them in the league that year. We then would have had to face a poor Man Utd side in the final.
     
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  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Maybe we would have lost anyway but in 1987 we could have had a better chance v Spurs with a real keeper in goal?
     
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  32. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Had him as first goal scorer, the absolute cockwomble.
     
  33. Lincshornet

    Lincshornet Academy Graduate

    If we had scored it would have annoyed them and given them an incentive to put 10 past us.
     
  34. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    Which they oh so nearly did in a game whose memories of are buired along side Yoveil and Fulham
     
  35. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    But you would have missed Pardew’s dancing skills.
     

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