I agree it was pretty poor and there were a lot of empty seats around. But let's face it, that's the norm for us. Atmospheres like the one we had against Everton are very few and far between. On the flip side, our crowd a very understanding. It takes a lot before they turn on the team during a match. We are just quiet and always have been. Nothing will ever change.
I agree - it could get a bit farcical and you'd still have endless debates about stuff like that .. Mind you it's either take time to get the right decision or if you don't like VAR because it's too long being used then just having to put up with close calls being wrong .. Don't think most pundits know what they want really .
Over the course of the season incorrect calls should even themselves out, ie away to Southampton we should have had a penalty and they should have had a goal! yesterday we were fortunate however the first time I had heard Deeneys goal was offside was driving home, no mention of it in the crowd (sitting in the Rookery) so didn't have a hint of it at the game!
I think you have just been booked and Leicester have been awarded a late 97th minute penalty for that comment.
It was very close, on Sky they showed an in-line view where it is marginal. His feet are level, his enormous forehead is ahead. No one complained on the Lesta side. If anyone was going to split hairs Morgan has his arms all but wrapped around Deeney so if it’s not onside it’s a penalty anyway.
I think it's to do with general "over celebrating." I think the rationale is that it has the potential to incite trouble, however, if so, it needs a rethink. A striker celebrating in front of his own fans with his shirt off, is not as bad as a player running towards opponent fans and making a shhh gesture or something to wind people up.
True, but plenty of us experience emotion and joy at football matches without taking our shirts off. And what about that stupid knee-sliding that injured Solsjaer and ended his career?
It's only a penalty if the referee is prepared to see it that way. Leicester had a free pass to manhandle Deeney as much as they liked without being penalised yesterday. Technically we should have been awarded two penalties for fouls on Deeney during the match. Having said that, I do think VAR would have disallowed the first goal, although they have awarded couple of close calls in recent cup matches that used VAR. So they may look at it, and when it's tight and not obvious, they go with the referees original decision, a bit like the system in cricket. I think that's how VAR should be used. To overrule clear and obvious incorrect decisions. Anything marginal, should be referred to the referee's original decision.
One benefit is that its a good place for talented youngsters to start their career. The fans will usually cut them a bit of slack and give them the encouragement they need to build up their confidence. I think its the perfect place for Quina and Wilmot to develop. I also love the fact that even though Del boy blows hot and cold and usually only scores against weaker teams, a lot of fans recognise he's trying his best and giving as much as he can to the team. They know his heart's in the right place.
Have heard that one before but sort of figured it's an urban myth. Surely clubs could just fine players if that was their concern? And the rule change was across every country and at all levels. The rumour at the time was it was cultural sensitivity that caused it.
Agree with all of that. But it was never a penalty (Maguire on Deeney) - if that’s given against us, to a man on here, we’d all be up in arms about how soft it was.
Have done some quick maths and I believe we would be 7 points clear at the top if we'd got the rub of the green with referees this season.
If we'd have got the rub of the green and Javi had made the right subs at the right time, we'd have won the World Cup
Exactly right. VAR has been implemented by people who have forgotten the very reasons why they love the game. It stirs emotions, both positive and negative and gives fans something to talk about at home with friends and family or down the pub with other fans/mates. I really am not down with this clamour to make the game and all its decisions faultless. I’m glad the ghost goal was given against Reading. I’m glad Knockaert dived. I’m glad Doucoure punched the ball in against Southampton. In isolation, they were all things that should have been reviewed and reversed. But controversy makes the game far more watchable.
Couldn't disagree more. I don't watch the game for controversy. In fact, I find it dull, which is why I hardly tune into media during the week to hear about discussions around football. It's just a self fuelling machine of ******** and the week's controversies are of little interest to me, unless they affect me directly. No, I like seeing our team play well, enjoy the wins, enjoy the periods when we upset the big boys. I don't like that 9/10 big decisions sway towards the big clubs, because referees are conditioned by media pressure to make the easy call. Removing black and white bad decisions can only be a good thing IMO.
We will have to see. I really don’t think VAR will make it more of a level playing field as some expect it to. Remember when the FA said players can’t surround a ref? They still do. We are told they won’t be allowed to signal for officials to look at VAR - but they will. And fans will inevitably find ways of screaming for officials to look - and the bigger clubs will be better at it. It will become manipulated over time to favour the bigger clubs by the clubs themselves. Better (bigger) clubs will have the majority of attacking play and therefore more opportunities to have things reviewed - I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see it levelling things out at all. It will eventually just become another thing to moan about IMO and something else to accuse officials of using with bias.
I find rugby unwatchable since every try has been subjected to 5 mins scrutiny. VAR won’t do much to cut out Muff’s diving antics, as far as I can tell.
Players will be surrounding the ref to get every possible issue revisited by VAR. Rather than being taught to dive, players will be taught how to get the ref to call for VAR. Lots of disbelieving Zaha like face -pulls. There will still be plenty of grey areas on review and the benefit will still go in the favour of the bigger clubs.
Good point. We should surround the ref much more. Troy, AG & Holly are the toughest guys in the division.
When it comes to VAR, I think once a decision has been reviewed fans will be far more accepting that the correct decision has been made. There's nothing more frustrating then feeling there has been an injustice. Ok, that seems to make you feel glad, but I think the vast majority of people want the correct decision to be made as often as possible. VAR will not stop referees like Moss from doing there own thing with regards to freekicks, but penalty decisions, offsides etc will certainly benefit from the system. Let's be honest, we've only had one penalty all season, so clubs like us and Burnley will benefit greatly from this system. There's no doubt about it in my mind. When you review something in a studio it strips away all forms of prejudice, because it's not in the moment. It becomes more mechanical than emotional. As long as VAR is used fairly across the board, then we will benefit from the system more than a lot of teams. Plus, the big argument of it will take away those talking points is not true. From what I've seen with VAR, it seems create as many if not more talking points.
How about a player shhhing his own fans? Actually, AG’s celebration was joyous. He seems much more at ease than last season.
I think Moss goes onto the pitch with such major preconceptions as "Deeney vs Morgan; 2 big physical lumps; all give & take, 50/50, no decisions need to be given"....once Leicester sussed that out they knew they could manhandle Deeney in every aerial challenge with impunity.
Strange move by Rodgers to immediately switch to a back three given that they’ve played nothing other than 4231 for 18 months. You would struggle to find anyone in Leicester with a bad word to say about Morgan as a man or a footballer but he’s well past his best.
Radio commentary, (was taking my daughter to her football game), seemed to think it was a wise move by Rodgers to get the senior players onside from the start.
That's just the point though isn't it? The majority of 'bad' decisions aren't black and white. VAR means football will be controlled remotely - which will be sh1t
