Watford Fc 2-0 Rotherham - 08/12/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Steve Leo Beleck, Dec 6, 2020.

  1. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I'll be watching this one purely because what else is there to do on a tuesday?

    I think there's a change we'll limp to a flukey win, thereby buying that dour terd on the sidelines a bit more time.
     
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  2. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    We can judge him for all of them, except like you say, Hughes (although I think he could have given him at least half an hour on Saturday).

    The set pieces are an absolute joke, and one of the biggest black marks against Ivic. We look utterly static and clueless when defending them, and concede a clear goalscoring opportunity every match. In attack, in the first couple of matches we looked threatening, but we now show little variation and other sides are much smarter about overcoming their set-piece limitations than we are.

    The overall play, negativity and number of bodies in and around the box is completely down to Ivic, as were the points lost playing 3 at the back against minnows like Wycombe.
     
  3. DaveWFC

    DaveWFC Five Star Man

    The most tedious of tedious 1-0 wins, I reckon.

    It'll pointlessly prolong Ivic's tenure at the club by another few weeks before his inevitable sacking and squander valuable time in our promotion push before we finish 8th with an infuriatingly close proximity to the playoffs.

    Either that, or as someone said earlier, Ivic's Yeovil moment.
     
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  4. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I’m torn between wanting another 0-1 home defeat with only 6 shots, with none on target, so GP has to sack him; and going on a goal spree, as long as it leads to a sustained attacking style for the rest of the season.
     
  5. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    I think when you are up against teams that sit in a defensive shape it is important to have as much width as possible and then have a play maker that is able to switch the ball quickly, I think we have this with Capoue, if he starts to put some effort in. It is also important to play the ball through the lines and I think Hughes will be able to do this. I hope I am not being too optimistic in saying that I think our tempo will pick up once we are able to start those two in the middle consistently. Our current midfield are far too slow and pass sideways or backwards 9 times out of 10, subsequenty allowing for the opposition to stay as a unit and wait for us for **** up the pass or force it long in frustration.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2020
  6. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    'Come on the boys!' - Ben Foster

    'Right, I'm off to get some brekko as I'm absolutely starving' - Ben Foster
     
  7. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Is brekko a weird Midlands thing or just a loveable goon Fozzie thing?
     
  8. mindthegap

    mindthegap Academy Graduate

    As long as the malcontents(Capoue mainly) don't play we will win easily.
    If half arsed starts then it'll be much closer and we might not even sneak a win.
     
  9. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I agree that we have an issue defending set-pieces, though I think a fair bit of that is also a lack of height in the side for this level.

    But anyway, the original point you made which you were trying to pin on Ivic wasn't that one, or any of the others you went on about there, but was your claim that Ivic is at fault for it being Garner taking our set-pieces. My point was that we have had no one else available in the squad who could have taken them instead, and that's not Ivic's fault - and none of the many many words you typed there addressed or countered that. So...
     
  10. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    I'm just sat watching his latest video with my daughter and those were on our bingo sheet along with:

    What a day for it
    You little beauties
    It was disappointing
     
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  11. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    It's apparently a recently emerged slang word for breakfast evolving from brekkie. Don't ask me why or how. The standard of spoken English continues to decline every day.
     
  12. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    And we go again.
     
  13. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    He called Quina a little beauty on the coach. As well as the bike maker. Everyone is a little beauty at some stage.

    I enjoy the Hughes villain role.

    I also enjoy his videos more than any Watford game I watch.
     
  14. ISO

    ISO Academy Graduate

    I don't believe that there's nobody apart from Garner who is capable of delivering a decent dead ball. Ivic is supposed to be Head Coach. He should be coaching players (paid thousands a week to kick footballs) how to do the simple thing of kicking a football at a set piece. How hard can it be?
     
  15. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    There were 2,000 little beauties in the crowd. Hopefully I'll be a little beauty tomorrow night.

    It's a shame really that the videos are so watchable and entertaining and then we get served up crap for 90 minutes, though Foster has alluded to thinking some of the team are putting in sub standard performances.

    Foul mouthed Hughes is good, Cleverly seems terminally boring. The coaching staff never feature I've noticed.

    How much money do the club blow on The Grove?
     
  16. reids

    reids First Team

    Lack of height or aerial ability? Cos I think we've probably got one of the tallest sides in the league -

    All 4 of our main CBs are either 6"2 or 6"3,
    Hughes, Chalobah and Capoue are all 6"1 and above,
    Pedro + Deeney are 6"0
    Sarr - 6"1
    Perica - 6"4
    Ngakia is 6"0

    Only Kiko and Cleverley are below 5"10 out of our whole squad which is pretty rare! Aerial ability on the other hand..
     
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  17. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Surely Sema can he seems to be able to put in a good ball when we play the short corner.
     
  18. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    I think it is must be I live not too far from where Foster is from and have heard a few people say it.
     
  19. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    The Hughes being 6'1 thing is an absolute lie. I have no idea why he is listed as that. He's 5'10/5'11 at most.

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  20. reids

    reids First Team

    I'm also not entirely convinced he's 6"1, but it's weird that literally every single data source says he's 6"1 - Opta, WyScout, InStat, Wiki, Football Manager - I definitely see a lot of players who have differing heights between sources (the best was WyScout who said one player was 5"4 whilst Wikipedia said he was 6"2) but if they all match up like that it's usually pretty solid - especially if they've played in the Prem as I imagine they get modelled for FIFA etc
     
  21. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    They must have taken it from his dating profile.
     
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  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    He is quite honest in the video.

    Has said in the past we've been lucky, game been boring, played for a point and other such comments.

    I suppose his position and status at the club is so safe he can do and say what he likes.

    Even laughs off the couple of bad goals he's let in - not sure everyone would be able to do that?

    Of course Foster has saved us more times though!

    We could do with the good PR after all the Gray/Deeney/sacking managers stuff.
     
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  23. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    We'll most likely win tomorrow, paper over the cracks again and delay the inevitable a little longer
     
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  24. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    He is from Leamington Spa so might live near there.

    Read he has a big (well they all do..) house on a farm which was self renovated.
     
  25. põder

    põder First Year Pro

    All us Leamites love a bit of brekko!


    Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
     
  26. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    In this case I can only presume they have simply all copied each other, because he is clearly, never, ever 6'1 haha.
     
  27. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    We have a relatively tall side.

    We give up chances due to poor starting position and poor planning.

    We don’t score because of poor planning and execution.

    We could play a cleverly worked short corner when we consistently can’t beat the first man. Any player on the pitch could take it.

    We clearly won’t though as we don’t have a manager who is interested in/ capable of doing anything that isn’t dull and unsuitable for our squad.
     
  28. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Kabs and Cathcart are both still relatively small for CBs, T-E a bit bigger but still the case.

    The thing is, and this is something I also posted in the Cardiff thread, although we have plenty of fairly tall players, we have zero players big enough to adequately man-mark the likes of Morrison and Moore at set=pieces when we come up against them (we had the same issue against the likes of Mings and VVD in the PL).
     
  29. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Or mine.
     
  30. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Can we PLEASE buck our ideas up.
    GET ON WITH IT!
     
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  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Remember when we put Cleverley on Mertesacker from a corner? That was fun.
     
  32. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    All this discussion about Watford’s less than adequate defending of corners is entirely legitimate but is surely not the greatest problem at the moment, which is only mustering one shot on goal per game.
     
  33. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Need to have a midfield three of Quina, Hughes and Capoue. Cleverley and Garner slow the game down too much allowing teams to get back in position against us.
     
  34. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Sarr is the best crosser of a ball we have. Cant quite fathom why he hasn’t been tasked with taking them at any point. It’s not like he’s a known aerial threat we’d be removing from the box.

    We’ve also taken that short corner to Sema a few times for him to cross it in from the left - suggests they know he can hit a cross but would probably curl it out of play if he took them from the D so needs a few yards grace to keep it in. But then he doesn’t take them from the other side like Holebas used to it take any FK’s?

    Seems to me like the decision has been made though that Garner takes everything if he’s on the pitch.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2020
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Won that game though. Deeney came on with 15/20 to go and turned it around. Which is the role he should have been playing for the last two years.
     

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