Watford Fc 1-1 Stoke City - 29/12/2023

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by SkylaRose, Dec 28, 2023.

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Who Will Win?

Poll closed Dec 30, 2023.
  1. Watford

    36.1%
  2. Stoke

    27.8%
  3. Draw

    25.0%
  4. Frank Butcher on Tanoy again?

    11.1%
  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Yes I know we’re not going to get relegated. Who said we were?
     
  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I used to notice the drop off in intensity and quality if we played three in a week in the PL, so certainly agree four in just over that is far from ideal. I suppose Chesterfield offers an opportunity to rest and rotate?

    Happy New Year to you too!
     
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  3. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    Yeah Sporting Index has on 64-66 points which is better objective indicator of probability.

    So if someone really thought we were that crap and would be lucky to get to 50 points and sold at £100 per point they would win £1400. However, if the same person had thought we'd possibly only have 22 by Christmas then they would already be £1200 down so perhaps a good thing they lack the conviction to put their money where their mouth is.
     
  4. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    More spin. It never ends with you. You just can’t help yourself can you?
     
  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Not true - the Watford market opened at 63-65.

    Pretty much always been seen as midtable runner by Sporting Index (high/low over season I think has been 67/59).
     
  6. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Great pun :)
     
  7. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    We're the most mid-table of mid-table sides.

    However Val has had us well motivated and playing as a team, and a really good run of performances and results for this squad has pushed us on a bit.

    Very hard to predict how we'll do tonight. Our obvious shortcomings remain however at least we've found some strengths to balance these out a bit.

    January window will be crucial if we want to actually do any better than we are now, I think this squad is doing about as well as it ever will without reinforcements.
     
  8. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Looking forward to hearing the Stoke fans get behind their team by singing about a bloke who murders his wife in a jealous rage
     
  9. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    If this was a weekend week to week fixture I'd favour us but it's a bit of a lottery atm with games having come thick and fast.
     
  10. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    "Why,why,why?"
     
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  11. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    I thought Watford market opened in the 12th century ?
     
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  12. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Average Saturday night fare in Stoke….
     
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  13. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    I checked the sporting index market before I posted this morning and it was 64.5 - 66.5. Its still showing that spread on my app.

    I'm increasingly getting the impression you're not terribly fond of me but really I was telling the truth so it wasn't necessary to challenge me.

    But regardless of a point either way the principle still stands that if someone was really certain we are that bad they could make a fair bit of money by selling at 63/64 or 64.5.
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2023
  14. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Sounds like you don’t like the boot on the other foot to me.
     
  15. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Last edited: Dec 29, 2023
  16. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

  17. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Wither Dennis?
     
  18. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Healy and Sema with knocks to add with Lewis. Both to be assessed before Plymouth on Monday,
     
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  19. Westsydneyhornet

    Westsydneyhornet Academy Graduate

    Is sema suspended ?? Missed the last game ….
     
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Injured .

    I thought Louza was too.

    Lots of changes - better hope the team gel quickly!
     
  21. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Hmmmm... Stoke will be encouraged looking at that. Hell, I'd like to play against our "full backs"
     
  22. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    Slightly anxious about the line up. Maybe Louza not gone yet.
     
  23. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist

    Healy out for the season then
     
  24. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    My point was simple. At the start of the season the quote was also 64-66 so a seller then would not have lost money as you incorrectly stated.
     
  25. andy wfc

    andy wfc Academy Graduate

    Why TDB and not Andrews at right back?
     
  26. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    With a full first-choice team I would have fancied us to win this. Now I'm not at all sure. I think we'll particularly miss Kayembe.
     
  27. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Final Shout box of 2023 up
     
  28. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Fecx. What a lineup.

    I just can't wait for the inevitable over-exaggerated, over the top meltdown if we lose this.
     
  29. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Ken out for a month according to the Norfolk Horns.
     
  30. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    If we lose this, it'll indicate we're in a false position and should be in the bottom six.

    If we win this, it'll indicate that we have a lot of strength in depth and could make a run at the play-offs.

    If it's a draw, I don't know what it'll say. Probably something in between the two, I'd expect.

    #RecencyBias
     
  31. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Is Val making a point to Pozzo, playing TDB at right back?

    Is there no alternative?
     
  32. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    He was certainly making a sulky point to the ref when he got booked and refused to look at him.
     
  33. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    What have they done to him? Have they demanded a ransom?
     
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  34. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    A lot of the time it is not what we do or try to do that is the problem; it's the lack of quality with which we do it. Each and every final ball into the box, for instance is slightly over-hit, each control under pressure is slightly untidy ---and the chance is lost. You could say the same for Stoke, mind. Maybe most of our players are just mid-table ordinary.
    This applies to our defence, but, in addition, they are all over the place.
    We could and should still win this, however.
     
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  35. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    A bag of carrots.
     

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