[REPORTED] Transfer Deadline Day Summer 2023

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Aug 31, 2022.

  1. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    WUT
     
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  2. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Or Edwards isn’t lying and completely agrees with the approach as he said.
     
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  3. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Duxbury ruined my trust in the club so sorry, I don't believe Edwards is happy with this squad despite what he says.
     
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  4. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Then Rob is wrong and his judgement is a serious concern.
     
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  5. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I suspect every manager probably wishes they had more quality in and could buy more players but most don’t admit that in public .

    As Scott Parker found out such things only end in one way.

    I think people would be sympathetic to Edwards though if he did make a comment and got into bother with the Pozzos as their reputation is in the mud to most neutral observers when it comes to management issues .
     
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  6. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

    Which statement did you not understand? Both seem crystal to me.
     
  7. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    No, Rob told the press he is of the opinion we are okay. Different thing.

    If he keeps playing our left back at RWB, then I think that’s very much an indication that he’s not particularly happy with our RWB options. Fingers crossed Gaspar or Ngakia can come good.
     
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  8. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

    So the coach thinks he is right, and a fan thinks he is wrong.
    It’s a game of opinions, so both are entitled to theirs. Mine is that I’m inclined to believe the one that was a professional player, has the relevant coaching qualifications, and works with the players every day in training. But that’s just my opinion.
     
  9. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

    Different thing? Sometimes it is (see : everything Boris Johnson has ever said in public :D) and sometimes it isn’t.
    I see no overwhelming evidence to date that RE is not happy with what he has, so I’m inclined to believe him.
    If he continues to play Kamara out of position over a fit Ngakia and an up-to-speed Gaspar then, I agree, that is evidence he isn’t as content as he says.
     
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  10. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    That’s fair. I think we’re broadly in agreement but I’m sceptical until he backs up his words with his selections!
     
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  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    And I'm entitled to think fans like you have had opinions about each of the last 12-15 coaches along the lines of 'they know what they're doing, they see the players in training' yada yada yada.

    Until they get sacked and then the very same fans are all 'they had to go, the Pozzos were right, let's back the new coach.'

    For the record, I like Rob but I think he's being naive by declaring he's content with his squad and I suspect that's poor PR. I don't think he's a bad coach and I hope we stick with him for at least a season to grow with us
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    At this juncture, whilst we retained Joao Pedro and Sarr, and are doing well in the table - he’d have been far more naive to come out and say he’s unhappy with the squad.

    Even if you disagree if he’s happy or not, you can surely see that one statement right now is better than the other?!
     
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  13. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    So it's meaningless either way?
     
  14. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I don’t agree that him showing public support for the squad he has is meaningless, just because some fans believe he’s lying when he says he’s happy with it.
     
  15. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    In which case he is incompetent. Take your pick.
     
  16. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think Rob making a party line statement is a complete red herring. Our window was poor and can be judged based on the obvious shortcoming any fool can see. Rob's inner feelings are neither here nor there for me.
     
  17. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Quite. I remember all the same fans running the same argument when people were questioning why QSF was putting 10 men behind the ball at home to Bournemouth/Sheff Utd. “Look at all his qualifications!” “You are just fans - he works with the players every day!”

    4 month later those same fans were calling him the worse appointment ever.
     
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  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Or he’s very happy with the squad and he’s also highly competent? It doesn’t make him incompetent just because he doesn’t share your view. But we will see over the season won’t we ?
     
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  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Or it was great as any fool can see due to keeping our best 2 players, shifting loads of deadwood and adding a good CB, CM and CF. Some people just look for any reason to have a moan.
     
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  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Worth noting here - Kane Wilson was a right-back before last season when Edwards converted him.

    And many Chelsea managers played Azpilicueta at LWB and achieved success - would they be classed as incompetent? Sure it’s not optimal to play Kamara there but there are worse things that we could do!

    Plus I really do believe that Edwards would want a defensive option if Sarr is played further up the pitch.

    I just don't get the depth of feeling about this! It’s definitely worth waiting and seeing how the next couple of months play out rather than going off the deep end right now about Edwards lying or being lied to.
     
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  21. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Lloyd Doyley spotted at the Vic on Tuesday. Free agent. Could it be true?
     
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  22. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I think it makes a lot of sense for RE to publicly praise his squad and build their confidence.

    His starting 11 however currently tells a completely different story. Picking a free existing GK over one who cost 8m, not starting a 5m striker, playing probably the best left back in the division out of position where he's almost useless instead of a RB (whilst refusing to sign a much better replacement who fits Edward's tactics to a tee).

    Choudhury is exactly what we needed. Hause should be too, if he stays fit. Keeping JP and Sarr means the rest of the squad doesn't need to be as good. So the window has been a fine one.

    But, there were many options which we could have signed which weren't such quick fixes, had greater potential and would increase more in value than any non-South American we've bought. We continue to splash money in the wrong areas, and using temporary plasters in positions we've neglected for years. We need more consistency and more forward planning if we want to stay in the PL.
     
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  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Nobody is going off the deep end as you're implying. It's simply that your new CoG team have been using Edwards' statement that he was happy with the squad as evidence that it was a good window. Others are simply saying that it's meaningless.
     
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  24. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    The pedestal that people put these coaches on, yet then we see so many examples of why it's false.

    Every idiot fan calling for 4-3-3 in the promotion season, but Xisco only stumbling upon it when Deeney is injured.

    Fans calling for Gray to not play, but coaches picking him, only for us to ship him off as a total loss in the end.

    Fans seeing that WTE wouldn't cut it in the prem, only for coaches to select him and allow him to scar himself for life with some of his buffoonery.

    Rob putting Kamara at RB where he is gash, before pushing him back to his natural position for 10 min where he unsurprisingly is far more effective.

    But these people see the players in training every day and have their relevant badges etc.
     
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  25. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    You know the drill. I am the oracle.

    I’m being daft calling him incompetent. My balanced view is he has been given a squad that should be top 6 (as you’d expect from a relegated side). I’m sick of the poison up top so hope he is given plenty of time to implement. The lack of courage in mentioning the obvious RWB issue is a minor gripe that I will overlook.
     
  26. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    On the latter, until we have a proper alternative at RWB, I can't criticise Rob too much for playing Kamara out of position!
     
  27. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Looks a good window to me and most others.
    Rob says he's happy with the squad and a RWB wasn't even discussed.
    You think he's lying and the RWB is a major issue for him and therefore it's a bad window.
    Fair enough.
     
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  28. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    If it was a lack of courage as opposed to Rob genuinely believing the words that came out of his own mouth :)
     
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  29. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Indeed. Glad we are now all on the same page :)
     
  30. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    We signed a young English striker with PL experience.
    We signed a young English midfielder with PL experience.
    We signed a left sided English CB with PL experience.
    We kept Pedro and Sarr and were in a position to turn down £55m for them.

    Dreadful window. Mid table at best.
     
  31. ThePaperBoy

    ThePaperBoy No Longer Delivering

    For all the gnashing of teeth about the club not bringing in another defender to play RB/RWB, why isn't there even more outcry with regards to the opposite side?

    Kamara is, or should be, first choice LB/LWB with Ken Sema as second choice at LWB only. Even then defensively he's pretty dire. Who else is there, James Morris? At a stretch but really not good enough sadly. Hungbo as a LWB? Worse defensively than Sema and no guarantee he's any better in an attacking sense. I can't imagine Gasper or Ngakia could switch flanks effectively, either as a full back or wing back.

    At least on the right we currently have three (on paper) in Gasper, Ngakia with Kamara as an awkward alternative. Ryan Andrews from the academy if things got particularly stretched but that just won't, or shouldn't, happen. Again, Hungbo as a RWB but defensively bad.

    Maybe someone should ask Rob Edwards about that.
     
  32. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Woah, Moog! I’m hardly a ‘COG’ just because I choose to believe a statement from the manager. And there’s been a few posts that have gone off the deep end me in my opinion.

    Everyone knows my thoughts about the owner, Duxbury, Giaretta, Mogi etc etc. Those opinions have not changed a single iota.

    I’ll put the above accusation down to your frustration and leave it at that - but I’m allowed to hold a few opinions about the club, squad and HC that aren’t exclusively negative. If you can’t accept that without thinking I’m suddenly all pro-regime, that’s on you, not me.

    Bit disappointed in you @Jumbolina for liking the post too if I’m honest!
     
  33. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

    You’re entitled to think what you want, but the fans you refer to are not “like me”, because that was not my opinion about all the last 12-15 coaches, either when they arrived or when they were sacked (those that were sacked - some left for other reasons).
     
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  34. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

    It’s like any job - so much easier to do better if you are not the one actually doing it.
     
  35. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I dunno Burnsy. Your posts the last month would have me casting a nervous eye at you in the trenches waiting for the bullet from behind. “They got to him Moog. They got to Burns!” <sad music and distant thunder>. :)
     
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