The FA 'shaking up' football again

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by nascot, May 6, 2014.

  1. bert slater

    bert slater Reservist

    The premiership clubs alter by 3 each year. So this year Cardiff B Fulham B and Norwich B are booted out of league 3 and replaced by Burnley Lesta and whoever B? Have these clubs got a bundle of English U21s? Err no. This is just skewed to help the elite EPL clubs gaining more control. I don't even think the top EPL teams would have enough ENGLISH u 21s and would they benefit playing in this standard if they did ? Err no.
    You want competitive football get em in a midweek league against each other with games free for ST holders to get an atmosphere. The real problem is a lack of quality coaching from an early age. It is not going to be a quick fix but is the only way. B teams will not help the England team and just messes up a great league tradition. If this proposal affected championship clubs ie WFC I doubt anybody on here would be in favour.
     
  2. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Lol, that's bit of a ramble Bert so here's one of my own :D. Slightly different and therefore hypothetical but say they put five B teams in the Championship, 5 in league1, 5 league2 and 5 with the bottom 15 of div2 + 4 from the skrill to form a league3. That's 24 more clubs and one extra layer. All in all that's 15 mostly struggling clubs displaced to a lower level yet realistically they will be no further from English champions as they were before except they will all be one more promotion away from achieving it. However to get those promotions they are only competing with 18 other clubs at each respective level and simple maths will show that added up their overall chance of ever making it to the Premiership will be little different to what it is currently (quite a bit harder for ex Championship clubs but not so much for ex L2). The real hardship comes with the loss of some revenue, I.E difference of gate money, player values, lack of player attraction, prize money etc. but is it really so much that the FA or PL can't afford to compensate? That I doubt as in reality it will be pretty cheap for such a big change of system. Fans will be p155ed off though but they'll soon get over it, especially when they find their teams can actually compete once again. This isn't the first time such radical changes will have been made to the league and I daresay it won't be the last but if as I've mentioned before we could get rid of the EPPP in the process I can only see a big win for all parties, massive even!

    Edit: thinking about it there are reduced odds when PL B teams take promotion spots (leagues 1-3) but this could be offset somewhat by limiting them to one spot each league.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2014
  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Where has talk of getting rid of EPPP come from? It's not as if Premier League clubs are adverse to having their cake and eating it. Plus the B team idea is dead anyway, it'll never happen.
     
  4. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Big changes like these have to be negotiated and the FL has a strong hand. While the EPPP is a huge Damocles sword for us league clubs it is rapidly being seen as a waste of time by the elite and I think it will have to fall victim if the FA really wants to put these changes in practice. If not then the FL aren't doing their jobs ... it should be an easy decision for all three parties.
     
  5. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Negotiated by whom? The Premier League aren't for it, the Football League aren't for it and the Conference aren't for it. All have expressed clear views that they disagree with it on its most fundamental level - it'll ruin the pyramid. It's going to be a lonely negotiating room with Greg D sitting on his own. The FA has no power to bring these changes in on its own and he knows it.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2014
  6. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    The top six PL clubs like the idea and much of the FL will like it if EPPP can be removed and compensation is adequate. The conference should like it as everyone moves 4 places nearer the Football League but hey! if there's other benefits going then why should they jump at the first offer?
     
  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    There aren't any benefits going except in a hypothetical scenario of your own creation.
     
  8. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    For the conference? If it's down to a vote of the clubs they might see it as an easier path, otherwise leave them as they are and reduce the size of each of the four leagues by one ... They're too big anyway, currently it's a minimum of 48 games a season.
    The conference wouldn't lose in any way except column inches in the newspaper.
     
  9. CarlosKickaballs

    CarlosKickaballs Forum Picarso

    That doesn't matter because the teams outside the PL get too much media coverage as it is...
     
  10. Rontaylor

    Rontaylor Reservist

    Sounds like a really good idea. Aside from "free to ST holders" isn't roughly what the old Combination League was?
     
  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yes and it was the total opposite of competitive. Watford actually left it a couple of years before it was wound up because frankly it was easier to arrange our own friendlies against competitive opponents than being forced to play a twice postponed game against Aldershot reserves.
     
  12. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Looks like the B Team proposal has been opposed on every single front. Good.
     
  13. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Great news :sign15:
     
  14. I've been thinking a lot about this, the answer is a FIFA14 league
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2014
  15. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Nah m8 pes iz teh way 2 go.
     

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