Relegation watch

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by IRB, Dec 12, 2017.


Are we going to get relegated?

Poll closed May 24, 2018.
  1. No

    87 vote(s)
  2. Yes

    22 vote(s)
  1. lancyclaret

    lancyclaret Academy Graduate

    The bookies had us to get relegated at the start of Dyche's first full season....finished 2nd behind Leicester with 93 points and only 5 defeats. Sean likes making the bookies look foolish like this season.

    Don't think Europe will affect us much as, under Dyche, Burnley have been a cr*p cup team (Lincoln, Accrington, Port Vale). I''d be surprised to get through 3 qualifying rounds to reach group stage.

    In PL, I expect a 10th-15th finish. Cardiff, Huddersfield and one other for drop (hopefully an upstart like Brighton or Bournemouth). Losing to Howe in the last game spoiled my season.
    Ray Knight likes this.
  2. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Would be a bit of a shame if you did get knocked out early. As much as I'd love us to go on a European tour, it would be a bit of an anti-climax if it did end before the group stages, I'm not sure if I'd be satisfied with that.

    Glad to hear you hate that smarmy git too! With that and the poor cup record, you're beginning to sound a lot like us!
    Ray Knight likes this.
  3. lancyclaret

    lancyclaret Academy Graduate

    Does not help when you get drawn away to Man City in third round.
  4. blueplague1878

    blueplague1878 Academy Graduate

    don't play me with the avatars mate...have you ******* got that?
  5. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Burnley fans arguing with Watford fans pretending to be an Everton fan.

    What a time to be alive.
  6. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Except for Europe, a watertight defence & the absence of stupid haircuts.
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  7. Next game is a must-win.
  8. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Boreham Wood away?
  9. No that would be madness. The next league game.
  10. Mollyboo

    Mollyboo First Year Pro

    Mark Hughes just signed a three year deal with Southampton, plus Cardiff and Villa/Fulham coming up.

    We're safe without even kicking a ball.
  11. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Fulham will be strong next year imo, owner wanted to buy Wembley for them plus they have joka.
  12. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I tend to agree, but I read somewhere, though I can't remember where, that other clubs are interested in trying to prise Joka away from Fulham, so it could get interesting?
  13. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Don't forget Wolves who like Fulham have the nucleous of an EPL side before recruitment. I would not have said that about Huddersfield plus Brighton and Newcastle had weaker squads last year. Only Cardiff look weak although the sum is clearly greater than the parts. Next season I think they will go down but Wolves will be mid-table and Fulham might survive a relegation dogfight. Just to stay in lower mid-table will therefore require Watford to recruit smart.
  14. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Southampton are down next season. Have no doubt.
  15. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    With Hughes in your house on it.
  16. Superb manager. Never been relegated. As he won't be slow to tell you.
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  18. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  19. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    It's changing all the time to be honest. We were 20th when I checked 5 minutes ago, now we're 17th. No doubt we'll be 1st at 7pm.
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  20. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    Now that we know all 20 teams in the prem next season, I've updated the table I put together a couple of months back based on a teams current length of time spent in the top division (it includes the forthcoming season, hence our total is 4):

    Top division league table consecutive years - updated.jpg

    Points of interest:

    Outside of the "top 7" - the grand total of current premier league experience equals 45 seasons. Divided by the 13 teams that make that up, it averages out to just over 3. Therefore, we are now past that figure, so you could argue that any seasons from this point on are "bonus" years.

    By losing Swansea, Stoke and West Brom, 25 years of top flight experience went with them. It remains to be seen if losing 3 established sides makes staying up easier - or whether they'd gone sterile and stale after reasonably long spells in the top flight, meaning a tougher year lies ahead with the 3 new teams coming up with something to prove?

    The talk from our close pals at Goodison regarding them being a top/big side and part of a "big 7" surely must have something to do with their lengthy stay in the top flight that is second only to Arsenal.

    We regularly moan about how we've never won a major honour - but when looking at the "top 7" - they're not all as successful as they'd have you believe (recent success over trophies won when colour TV wasn't yet available).

    I'm not one to pretend that football only started when the Premier League was formed - but it is certainly the starting point of when serious money began pouring in to the game at the top level and a clubs main source of income gradually shifted from gate receipts to TV money and hospitality/sponsors.

    Therefore - looking at the success of the "top 7" since the Premier League era began (26 years), it looks like this: (Charity/Community Shields not included)

    Team + Number of major honours
    Man Utd 25
    Chelsea 20
    Arsenal 13
    Liverpool 10
    Man City 7
    Spurs 2
    Everton 1

    Man City are fast catching Liverpool, considering their success has come over the past few seasons.

    Despite a shiny new stadium, I'd have serious reservations about joining Spurs if I was a top player that really wanted to win something. Two trophies in that time period is pathetic for a team that wants to be classed as "one of the big boys".

    And as we all knew already - Everton are living firmly in the past with this "big club" moniker they believe they have. They are an also-ran along with the rest of the teams in the division.

    The other 13 teams in this table have three major honours (during the Premier League era) between them - and they all belong to Leicester (1 Premier League and two League Cups).
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  21. So your saying Lesta are bigger than Everton


    Once the scousers find out they will invent a top 8

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