Next Manager - Ivic Confirmed

...and this is the problem.

I think the owner's entire concept over head coaches has to change. They have this model, which they seem very proud of, where they can still function even if the head coach is removed. Everything else is still in place. That's fine up to a point, but it is all geared around the removal of a head coach. There is no faith shown in him from day one. Why don't they say, you're our guy and we'll build the club around you. Try it and see if it works? The other way sure as hell doesn't.

The head coach at Watford, is the most interchangeable position in the entire club. I bet no other job title has as many changes associated with it. That very fact alone has to ring alarm bells.

The owner has to ask himself some questions. Why do we keep appointing coaches that start well but then fade so spectacularly. It's happened to every single coach, apart from Joka. The decline sets in so early at our club, it's just crazy now. Something has to be dramatically wrong, be it the culture, the environment, the lack of control given to the coach etc.

It's easy to blame the players, and yes they are a large part of this, but we know they are good enough. We've all seen the good runs they have been on, the impressive victories they are able to get. So ability wise, they can do it.

Every single head coach has crashed and burned and the honeymoon period is getting shorter and shorter for each of them. It's just so very strange and this needs addressing from the very top. It is our biggest problem at the club.

They should appoint the right guy, show a lot more faith in him, and spend some decent money on the appointment.

If they carry on doing the same thing, employing another journeyman coach, blindly hoping that it will work, then I think they would have learned nothing and we'll never move on from the ridiculous hiring and firing culture.

 

Going back a bit, cannot see Marcelino coming to Watford.

Valencia are a mess of a club, with an owner and power structure desperate to assert authority over their manager while tightening the budgets. Marcelino had a big falling out with them over him prioritising the Copa del Rey to the potential detriment of making the Champions League, their attempts to sell important players, and other things. He was pretty vocal and the club powers did not like it.

In effect, the same mess that we have at Watford.

(More detail here: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/val...-assertion-of-authority-is-tearing-them-apart)

 

QSF obvs

 

If this season has taught us anything, if we didn't know it already, it's that whoever is coach, it's a pretty pointless discussion.

They may give the team wind in their sails for a few games, they may look like a genius for 3 games as they play to our strengths from the start and then bring on a game changing substitution, but it will end the same way. The players will lose heart, there will be rumours of unrest, of cliques, of a falling out with Gino/Grimaldi and then they will be sacked.

It really doesn't matter who the person is, what style of football they are known for, their reputation for bringing in youth or their flair with a cigarillo and a waistcoat - it will have little/no material effect on our club until Gino ****s off with his accursed 'model.'

 

With Giraldi around no matter what decent players we bring in, the head coach will be undermined. I'm sure player cliques are relatively common in football as it is in a lot of workplaces. Giraldi is the Dominic Cummings of our club and until he goes I can't see matters improving.

 

HB1 very well put! agree 100%

 

I've been trying to work what relation Giraldi is to the Pozzo's, but I've gone back to the 16th century and just can't fine the link!

 

I've been trying to work what relation Giraldi is to the Pozzo's, but I've gone back to the 16th century and just can't fine the link!

 

I'm beginning to wonder if the problem with head coaches fading is something to do with the players with strong influence easing back and pulling back the team with them as they get familiar with them.
It would explain why QSF failed so badly on his second spell
I think there are some strong influences in the dressing room that need shifting to give any coach a chance.
Otherwise we get a bounce and back to the same old lazy hoof ball sh

 

This is the only positive I can see from appointing Joka - he did get shot of all the bad eggs - Dyer, McGuigan, Andrews and that Swedish **** whose name escapes me

 

Ranegie ?

 

Former Southampton and Leicester boss Claude Puel is the early favourite to take over as Watford's next manager after the Hornets sacked Nigel Pearson. (Mirror)
Former Newcastle and Brighton boss Chris Hughton, 61, is in talks with Championship side Bristol City over becoming their next manager. (Mail)
Relegation-threatened Watford face a potential financial problem as their biggest earners would not see their salaries drop if they fell into the Championship. (Mail)

 

And how much of that was him, and how much was it the Pozzos?

 

The Times reporting that Zlatko Dalic (Croatian National manager) is indeed a long-term target for the job.

As I said the other evening, in amongst all the names in the odds, that name sticks out as an odd one and I can’t figure out why the odds have been made so short for him at this stage...

 

I thought he was Dr Who’s arch enemy!!

It’ll be fitting as Gino could exterminate him after his honeymoon period is over.

 

Well they were there for long enough under beeppi and mckinley and the other bloke. Joka was the one who made them train with the kids

 

To be fair he could come here, get sacked and still go back to the National job in time for the euros...

 

Here's a suggestion my left field: - What about "Woy" from Palace?

My guess is he will be leaving Palarse at the end of the season and I think he could be just the man to steady the ship and maybe mentor a new young manager at the same time to follow him at the end of next season?

Possibly that could be Mullins with his assistant Stack.

 

Probably the first manager the Pozzos won’t end up sacking because he’ll probably pop his clogs first.

 

Woy from Place would fit in well..... his team just lost 8 in a row

 

I agree.
If the problem is the attitude of the players then changing the manager will never solve it.

Unless they change their attitudes you need to change the players.

Swapping managers is just a sticking plaster.

 

Pozzo doesn't like Clog popping, probably sack him for doing that.

 

That's because they have been on the beach for quite some time with nothing to play for. However, Woy is better than that and I reckon he could be just the man to rebuild our team given the chance.

 

wtf do u no m8

 

Best troll in the business. If our players had half the motivation you must have to continue this charade, we'd have won the league.

 

Fillipo Galli was Maldini compared to our current crop of 'defenders'.

 

Well I'm certainly ruling myself out . I couldn't work under those
conditions that is for sure !!

 

Christ, just looked at all the odds and candidates. What a depressing list.

Having said that, I think Lee Bowyer has worked miracles at Charlton considering what's been going on behind the scenes at that club. Could do a good job for us in the Championship?

Karanka maybe? Did a good job at Boro, made them very organised and tight defensively, albeit the football was a bit boring by all accounts.

Out of all of them on there I would rather get Sam Allardyce. At least he has a track record of taking teams up and keeping them there! However, more chance of QSF coming back for a third stint!!

Wouldn't mind Hughton in the Championship either in fairness.

Anyway, does any of this matter? If they lose 3 games on the spin they'll be gone......

 

In no way whatsoever was Galli crap. He was a beautiful pearl in a sea of crap. I demand you retract the comment or I will never take a post of yours seriously again.