Liverpool FC 6-1 Watford FC - 06/11/2016

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Meh!, Nov 3, 2016.

  1. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Meh! This is some top work old son. Many, many congratulations.

    I tip my hornet hat to you.

    http://www.empireofthekop.com/2016/...ol-out-of-himself-before-the-liverpool-clash/
     
  2. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Same here. Mostly southern plastic scousers who have never been to a game.

    I can't get over how overboard people are about how good Liverpool were. It's a case of we were diabolical. Not event the likes of Sunderland would have got that much of a battering.

    MOTD did some it up when they said we helped in our own downfall. Trying to dribble the ball out from the back and losing it due to our non-existent midfield not wanting the ball. Igalho and Deeney weren't up against world class defenders but it made no difference, no fecker got the ball up to them anyway.

    It was embarrassing. Six goals scored against us, with no effort to try and stop them.

    Cheque book needs to come out in the next window. Perayra and Capoue need to have a long hard look at themselves. At present they appear to think they're untouchable and a shoe in for the first 11.
     
  3. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I've just been asking them whether they haven't got any work to do.

    We're supposed to be bloody working, not wasting time talking about football.
     
  4. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Well that wasn't great.

    To be honest, I'd rather lose 6-1 to Liverpool than lose 2-1 against Sunderland or Hull.

    Spent today trying to decide who our second worst player was, so many to choose from. Kaboul, Capoue, Holebas and Deeney were the frontrunners.

    Behrami was far and away the worst player on the pitch.

    Thought Watson looked ok when he came on, would like to see him instead of Behrami.

    I don't think we would have lost as bad if we had Prodl, Cathcart and Success though, our injuries are becoming a problem. Gomes out now too.

    Once again it looks like our summer signings have been poor.. Zuniga/Kaboul/Doucoure/Kabasele all failing to impress both fans and the manager it seems.
    (I know Doucoure was January, but he only joined in the Summer).
     
  5. MarlonsCellMate

    MarlonsCellMate Reservist

    I was talking to some spurs and arsenal fans and we were trying to work out when Watford last let in more than 5. Turns out it was against spurs in 1994 sauce.

    Since then spurs have conceded 6 or more goals on at least 3 occasions, and Arsenal at least 4 times.

    It happens. Better to happen against a top end team than anyone else. It's how we react to it after the international break that is my main concern now.
     
  6. magic

    magic Statto & Vordamen's lovechild

    Absolutely agree, that was a really disappointing performance/result.

    I don't think we have been playing well in the past few games regardless of the results.

    Liverpool are unbelievable at the minute and Coutinho is class.

    It's all about the reaction.
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Well that was a poor effort all round. Yesterday I fully expected to loose, the last few games provided little evidence we could give a Liverpool side in that sort of form trouble and so it proved. However there is no reason to make it so easy for them the way we did, an appalling effort all over the pitch. However the central midfield deserves special condemnation for their utter failure to provide anything in the shape of defensive cover or support for the attackers. The problems of Deeney and Iggy are well known to us but at the moment they are been feed scraps, the central midfield isn't creating chances and isn't getting up to support the forwards. It showed last week as well, start of the season a ball laid off would find a midfielder running on to it but no longer. Defensively the same, three at the back requires midfielders and wingbacks to drop back to provide the cover, not to let opposition waltz past you, we were a shambles yesterday and if it had been eight or nine we couldn't have complained. Someone here ( I think) said it was like watching an FA Cup third round tie where a non league side turn up and get beat, don't get me wrong, Liverpool were good but we made them look so much better.
     
  8. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I cannot understand why an experienced coach, would be so na*ve and underprepare his side in such a way. Look at how Middlesbrough or Burnley take on the big sides. They make themselves very hard to beat.

    We played suicide football. I've been concerned over our slide in form since the United match. We've picked up more points than our performances have merited, which has fooled everyone. I am not seeing a steady improvement, in fact the exact opposite.

    Who knows what the thrashing will have on the belief of the side. We played ridiculous football all over the pitch. Trying to walk out with the ball and little flicks here and there.

    Why is Mazzarri still insisting on three at the back when he has injuries? No Cathcart or Prodl. In what Universe is playing a wing back in a back 3 a good idea?

    It was unprofessional from start to finish.....and only a handful of players could be bothered to applaud the fans after the game. That is even more shameful.

    Right now I'm more than a bit concerned at how things are going. I just have a really horrible gut feeling about it all.
     
  9. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    Firmino looks like one of those "women" you might have the misfortune of waking up next to after a night out in Bangkok
     
  10. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Being entirely serious, the way Klopp plays leaves his teams open to injuries.

    An injury to Coutinho and Firminho/Mane and they'd look incredibly average.

    Burnley would have knocked three past us yesterday.
     
  11. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    It's that Keith Weller,tap tap tapping on my window!
     
  12. Corky an MK Hornet

    Corky an MK Hornet Reservist

    A simply awful performance yesterday. No heart, little effort, and ultimately abject surrender. We may be 8th, but I fear for this side. We have been poor since the Man Utd win, but fortunately have picked up points.
    The midfield is woeful atm, the decimated defence (the sooner Prodl and Cathcart are back the better) are all over the place, and the 2 forwards huff and puff (well Troy does) with little reward. Success looks like a great player, but he seems to get injured every couple of weeks. Okaka - is he the answer? 10 minutes of football and out for 6 weeks............As for Ighalo, I think he had the golden year, and that's it. He's spent, and now can't hit a cows arse with a banjo.
    For all the excitement about being 8th, we are only 5 points way from Hull in 18th. Roll on the 19th and Leicester. Hmmm.
     
  13. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'll say it for the third time today - 5pts after 11 games is a massive gap. Huge. There are 9 teams between us and the relegation zone. With the best will in the world and even if we lost every game it would likely take until Christmas for us to enter the bottom three. Chill out.
     
  14. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    All those claiming 'disgrace' and 'shameful' need to get over themselves! We were beaten by a much better team - yes, we didn't defend well but Liverpool were ruthless, exciting and clinical, fully deserving to be top of the league. A much better team than has been pedalled out in recent years. It's not often I applaud the opposition but I did this yesterday, including those subbed by Klopp - and I wasn't the only Watford fan doing so either.

    That the Watford fans were magnificent in defeat showed how they resigned themselves that we were being pummelled and took it into our stride ('We've had a shot' bouncing when we got our first corner - after cheering it as if we'd scored, 'We're gonna win 6-5', '5-0 and you've ****ed it up' and so on) with humour. I overheard some Liverpool fans on the way out saying that we were the best away fans they'd had for a very long time.

    As for the team, they'll need to get it out their system and move on. What else can they do? We escaped injuries last season, so it'll be tougher this time around. Mazzarri will need to sort a few things out but I think he can. I would like us to be the teams that turned out against West Ham & Man Utd and not those who turned up against Hull & Burnley, but survival is the key first & foremost.

    The whole thing was disappointing, not disgraceful. I sort of enjoyed the day at Anfield (result & performance aside of course, but there's no point in ranting about either) We're in the top half of the table, we're not Luton and we're not where we were a few years ago flirting with relegation from the championship and bankruptcy. We'll get the odd nosebleed or two in this division, as did Bournemouth last year (6-1 defeat by Man City) but we'll survive.
     
  15. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    He reminded me of one of the characters out of Apocalypto


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  16. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    To put it into perspective...which was the most surprising result of the weekend? Liverpool stuffing us 6-1, or Everton being mullered 5-0 at Chelsea? Koeman wore the expression of someone who'd gone out for a pleasant round of golf & been partnered with Tiger Woods in his pomp. Everton had current international defenders floundering around like men in quicksand looking shell-shocked. When players that Liverpool & Chelsea have at their disposal turn it on, they can hammer anyone in the Prem on a given day...including each other sometimes!
    Listening to the Sky commentary, it was stated more than once before the 1st goal that we were being "incredibly brave" by trying to press Liverpool in their own half. Would we have the stamina, discipline & skill to make it work? Clearly not, but if we'd sat back & tried to nullify them, then we'd probably have lost by 3-0 having never ventured beyond the half-way line.

    I agree playing Janmaat as one of 3 CBs was "optimistic" at best. If WM did not want to move away from a back 3, then maybe he should have picked Kabasele or Mariappa, played Janmaat RWB, moving Amrabat to LWB, as he's played a lot of his career on the left, with Pereyra as a slightly more attacking CM than Behrami & Capoue.
    However, asking either of those 2 "back-up" CBs to come in for this game may have seemed to him the bigger risk.

    Lets see what side he picks & how it reacts against Leicester.
     
  17. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Never quite sure with you but do you actually really mean that last sentence?
     
  18. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yes. If we line up vs Leicester with Deeney and Ighalo up top and the same lineup other than enforced changes, I'm out for the foreseeable
     
  19. If we line up vs Leicester with Deeney and Ighalo up top and the same lineup other than enforced changes, then I hope Wally catches a nasty illness that makes his **** drop off
     
  20. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    That's the spirit. Fickle doesn't even come close. I'm as disappointed when I see comments like that as I am with some performances. maybe you should pack it in altogether so somebody can have your seat who will support us know matter what happens
     
  21. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    That person is not queuing up to take my seat. Don't delude yourself.
     
  22. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    I'll have your seat - my sister and I have tried, and failed, to get tickets for Hull and now Leicester.
     
  23. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I hope we beat Leicester. They are a bigger club than Liverpool so it would be more of an achievement.
     
  24. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    But will you want to watch every game thereafter, even if it's horrible?
     
  25. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    The thing is, we probably will. It would be typical Watford. Beat Man UTd and Leicester but lose to Burnley and Liverpool. We just can't seem to get up for the **** games.
     
  26. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    There's tickets available for Leicester as STHs give up their seats, I've kept an eye on it today and I've seen 10 or so seats pop up - there's seats for two people next to each other in 4 blocks.
     
  27. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    More people who've had enough
     
  28. Corky an MK Hornet

    Corky an MK Hornet Reservist

    You are quite right. Whenever I've put my season tickets up for resale / exchange with the ticket office, they have never been resold. They are plumb seats in the SEJ. So it's myth that people are queuing up to take the seats.
     
  29. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Thanks - I'll check it out tomorrow
     
  30. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I just can't get enough, as a wise man once said.
     
  31. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    It's getting hotter
     

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