Javi Gracia

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by hornetboy1, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    Well that was coming I guess and why wait until we're in the championship, I hate seeing all these coaches leave this club faster than they leave Victoria station and I'm really hoping for stability and success, I understand we're always going to be a stepping stone as players will go to the top clubs as will coaches if they're good enough. But to honour a contract for a couple of years is not much to ask. So onto the new guy Javi I'm not going to pretend I knew about him as I've never heard of him until today and with his fast appointment it never even gave me the opportunity to email my cv. It's a gamble but I don't think it's as big as some make out plenty of coaches have come from foreign shores and succeeded and he's already experienced a couple outside his homeland , the thing that pleases me the most is he was out of work and not poached from another club. I'd love for another up and coming English coach to be given a chance but where do you find one of them out of work that any good.
     
  2. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Will JG leave his face on the pitch?
     
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  3. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Due to the confusion over the spelling of his surname, I’m going to call himGarth.
     
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  4. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Actually I don’t read the Daily Mail but after reading your post I did have a quick look at their online pages. Omg I see what you mean. Very biased, slanted reporting, with little proper understanding of how we run our club and why it’s been successful. Not good. I’m sure somebody will post a link to Samuel’s latest piece today about ‘hapless owners’. I won’t as I don’t feel it deserves one.

    Silva deserved to go. Gracia looks an interesting appointment, and I’m excited to see how he gets on.
     
  5. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    We'd all love to see us attract a coach who has won things in lesser leagues, but we've done that times now, and look how it's turned out.

    Maybe Gravy Thank You is more out level and the remedy to our particular malady.

    I am optimistic about his appointment and will give him 3 games before I boo him
     
  6. If he grinds out 10 draws that's what we need right now

    Rinse and reset in the summer
     
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  7. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    From everything I've read it seems he is somwhere in the middle ground between QSF and Mazzari but closer to QSF. Pretty much what we need right now. We just need to start turning what have been defeats into draws and build from there.
     
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  8. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Which means he’ll start out promisingly and then the fans will turn on him when he fails to turn us into Barcelona.
     
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  9. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Or he could be like Boothroyd, comes in and manages to keep us up, then does something amazing the next season.

    Probably not though.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Having reflected a bit my biggest worry is how the players will react as Silva was clearly pretty popular.

    In the promotion season the squad pulled together because there was an obvious common purpose - promotion, and the hope they'd all get taken along to the promised land with the club. This time though it's different. As someone else pointed out on another thread if we go down most of the players we're relying on now will be offski. They don't have to be particularly concerned about playing Championship football because they won't be. And there's no stigma for a player in being relegated unless they're particularly culpable. So Mr Gravy Thank You is going to have to work really hard to convince them it's worth putting back in that 5-10% of effort that seems to have drifted away for whatever reason since the end of November.
     
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  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It appears to be option B. The buzz word we'll all have to tune into going forward being 'situations'. Though 'in this moment' seems to have been handed over too.

    http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co....ws/javi-gracia-grateful-given-watford-1097853
     
  12. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    There was lots of talk yesterday about new manager bounce.

    Interestingly, Boothroyd lost his first 3 matches in charge.

    And the rest is history!
     
  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Didnt the joka lose his first 4? I think GT started badly as well.
     
  14. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    The Mail have hated us since the days of one of their reporters Jeff Powell. They were in love with Bobby Moore who had been lined up as our manager by hoodwinking Elton but thankfully Bertie Mee and sensible football people persuaded him to take Graham Taylor instead. Then started the Mail's campaign against us and our long ball game.
     
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  15. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The Mail’s stock in trade is hatred. In this case it wants people to hate our owners.

    It’s not an opinion, it’s a marketing method. This silly **** may even think he believes what he writes, but if he was told to he’d big us up and slag someone else off he would, like the **** sucking no morals ***** he is.
     
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  16. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    3...won his 4th match, at Rotherham!
     
  17. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Eh ? Rotherham away was before he joined ??
     
  18. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Just so!
    Martin Fat Sam is a mere novice in comparison to the vitriol that dripped from the pen of Poison Powell.
    I was in an press conference once for the WO when he was present. Smug,self satisfied and cruel.
    MFS has learnt well from the master.
     
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  19. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Are you sure? Wikipedia (never a reliable source I know lol) has it as 16th April...with AB joining us late March
     
  20. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    No and no.

    We were unbeaten in Joka's first four games.. two victories and two draws and GT didnt start badly, winning eight of the first 10 games.
     
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  21. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Let's hope for a few losses then in the coming weeks.
     
  22. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    It looks like it already has been
     
  23. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  24. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    More on the Boothroyd chat - he may of tailed off in the end, but I will always be thankful that he kept us sliding into League One that season he first arrived late.
     
  25. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    Think you might be missing a word there :)
     
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  26. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Sorry crossed wires. I was talking about Boothroyd.
     
  27. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    I think it was at Lincoln GT started badly? Didn't he lose his first few opening matches as a league manager?
     
  28. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    OMG so I did sorry!! I meant he kept us FROM sliding into League One. :p
     
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  29. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Over recent years it's been rare for a new WFC Head Coach to lose their opening match.

    I stand to be corrected on this, but I think Garcia was the only one to do so under the Pozzos.
     
  30. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Hate to be the bearer of bad news Malts, but "The Bold Italian" lost 3-0 away to Manchester City in his first game.

    If your talking about purely the Pozo era - then no none of them have. We did need a leveller against Ipswich with BS if I recall.
     
  31. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Garcia did I think? 0-1 at Charlton.
     
  32. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    Yes. Not sure how many games lost but it took until his 12th game to get a win.
     
  33. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Zola won his first League game away at Palarse...
     
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  34. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    First games in the Pozzo era..

    Zola won
    Sannino drew
    Garcia lost
    McKinley won
    Joka won
    QSF drew
    Mazzari drew
    Silva drew
     
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  35. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Ah !
     

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