Illness After Astra Zeneca Vaccine ?

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Clive_ofthe_Kremlin, Jan 28, 2021.

  1. Wexford-yellow

    Wexford-yellow Academy Graduate

    Wife had Pfizer vaccine three weeks ago and no problem at all.
    Booster yesterday and really bad today with flu like symptoms.
    Her colleagues are saying the same
     
  2. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Microchip implanter.
     
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  3. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    2 days now post vaccine.

    Arm isn’t sore anymore.
    Had a bit of a headache and a bit tired yesterday morning.

    Have not turned into a 5G mast, haven’t developed Autism, still an apple fan boy and don’t like Microsoft. Clearly they gave me a placebo so I can work on the Jewish Space Laser that sets fire to California
     
  4. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I still need to wait 10 weeks (fine with me) for the second dose and then a week after that, then if it’s taken (95% sure it has) I will have immunity. I will then keep respecting social distancing to protect those who haven’t had the vaccine or those how can’t for whatever reason
     
  5. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    We beat the Nazis and my relatives suffered through the blitz. I dont have to sit in a trench having chemical weapons shelled at me, I dont have to die on a beach or a death camp. I just have to stay at home, wear a mask and not be a self entitled **** for a few months and then humanity wins
     
  6. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Question - when someone has had both doses of the vaccine, can they still get Covid (asymptomatically) and pass it on? I assume they can.
     
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  7. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    no vaccine is 100%
    It isn’t impossible. It is less likely but not impossible.

    I suspect we will get full answers to the epidemiological questions in 2-3 years
     
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  8. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    There are many vulnerable people who won’t be able to have the vaccine due to previous anaphylaxis/immune suppression. I think we all have an ethical duty to protect them and defeat this evil illness.
    I feel so bad for them, they have to sit at home, fearing that any human contact may be a death sentence until we all do the right thing collectively.
    People having parties (Gray), floating lockdown laws or espousing weird beliefs about Covid not existing in my opinion will have the blood of the innocent on their hands
     
  9. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    I understad it's not certain yet, but it appears you may still carry it for a couple of days whislt it's being killed off by your antibodies and not being infected yourself.
    So you'll not suffer, but will still be contagious albeit less so for a shorter period. It won't be until there's a large majority vacinated and cases are very low that we will be back to normal.
     
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  10. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Yeah, I don’t think they know yet for sure. In the trials they carried them out in places with very high infection like Brazil. They inject some people with the vaccine and some people with a placebo. They then go about their normal lives in the context of whatever restrictions there are in that country. hospitalisations and deaths are then compared over time to work out the vaccines efficacy.

    Although a lot of people are recruited for these trials, it’s impossible to work out if they are infectious with the virus, for how long etc. The total participants that actually had the vaccine wouldn’t have any noticeable impact on infection rates in that country that could be picked up on.

    So everyone can only guess, however it won’t be long before enough people are vaccinated after that we’ll be able to build a picture.
     
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  11. rochdale away

    rochdale away Reservist

    Vaccine update....The centre I went to was extremely well organised, waited in car until called(on time). The staff were lovely,reassuring and super professional. I didn’t even feel the injection.

    My arm felt slightly bruised about 6 hours later, although I probably wouldn’t have noticed if I hadn’t been thinking about it. Not one side effect, feel absolutely normal.
     
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  12. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

  13. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I've had the flu jab for 4 or 5 years now, some years there are no symptoms, some years there are symptoms similar to what I'm reading about regarding the covid vaccine. I'm still here.
     
  14. Simple test for this. Try to operate apple product; if difficult, sure sign that Bill Gates is controlling.
     
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  15. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Precisely far more worrying if nobody is reported symptoms of a normal reaction to a vaccination of this kind
     
  16. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.29.21250653v1.full.pdf

    A very interesting and shortish study
    In summary if you've had covid and then have ONE dose of Pfizer or moderna (The RNA ones) you have much higher (10 times at least) the amount of antibodies then people who haven't had covid and have 2 doses
    (You are still very likely protected if you have had two doses and wait the required time)
     
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  17. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    My (68 year old) brother in law had his first vaccine on Sunday. I presume AZ - his daughter went to Oxford, and after ramming that down our throat - I doubt he would accept anything else. He now reports three days of feeling unwell. But he is a regular bad back shirker, so no surprise.

    My >80 year old mother has had two doses of Pfizer. She reported some reaction to the second dose, but only aches and redness of the arm jabbed.

    I regularly used to arrange work place flu vaccination of my team. I always got a few reporting feeling unwell afterwards. Isn’t the AZ technique of vaccine more like the flu one?
     
  18. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I've never had a flu jab. They tried one year but it's really hard to get a syringe into my thick, solid, muscular arms, so they gave up.

    The nurse mused that it was like giving an injection to the statue of David (but with a bigger wang).
     
  19. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Definitely, although as an interesting side thought... if we didn't live in this time, the majority of those who have died would have died far earlier (and people would be far less obese), therefore the death toll of the virus itself would also be far reduced. Plus, fifteen years ago, it may not have even made it out of China.
     
  20. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Yes similar
     
  21. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Cos they're all lizards dressed up as humans?
     
  22. K9 Hornet

    K9 Hornet Border Collie Dog

    Maybe if they'd used a smaller, sharper wang they would have succeeded? Just a thought.
     
  23. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I always have the flu jab, and never have side effects from it. I had the AZ vaccine last week, and after a couple if hours without any effects I had a sore arm for about an hour. The following day I felt really woozy until about 3pm and again had a sore arm for a shirt time. Since then, nothing - but my wife's arm was sore for a couple of days longer. She didn't get the wooziness but had a very runny nose the day after the jab, and that's a rare thing for her.

    Conclusion: I've suffered more at a Watford match. Quite often, recently.
     
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  24. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I don't believe in vaccines. I prefer to let my immune system build up naturally using juices, fruits and crystal healing.
     
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  25. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    For those who have had the jabs, do you know or get told when the 2nd one is after you've had the 1st one?
     
  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    My dad was given a leaflet telling him when the 12 weeks was up but no actual appointment.
     
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  27. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    With AZ, yes - after 12 weeks. People I know who've had Pfizer haven't been given a second date, I suppose because storage problems mean they'll get it when it's available in their area.
     
  28. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I hadn't realised the 12 weeks was a definite date, it seemed to be being pitched by the government that this was a maximum interval.
     
  29. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I suspect it's a maximum for Pfizer.
     
  30. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    My parents got the Pfizer jab last week, and were given a date in mid-April for their second (5.5 weeks).

    I suppose it might be delayed if the SA variant takes off here (and AZ is found to be less effective at preventing serious illness in the elderly) though.
     
  31. rochdale away

    rochdale away Reservist

    I booked the second appointment(in April) at the same time that I booked the first one. People seem to be getting different emails, I got my vaccine as I’m NHS primary care maybe that makes a difference?
     
  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    You get a little card but no date.

    And as UEA says a leaflet.
     
  33. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure I don't wear long sleeves when I go for mine.
     
  34. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Good idea. They jab you close to your shoulder. Or do I mean they job you?
     
  35. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    My mum had it and had sore arm for a while, but is now fine. And now she won't die.
     

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