Covid-19 Virus

The pressure mounted on the government as soon as the other UK nations went on their own lockdown, and Labour jumped on the bandwagon, you only have to watch or listen to any BBC, ITV or C4 news bulletin to know that. Once the message gets diluted, less people take notice, and less chance of current measures working.

 

Er no.

I don’t have a plan, I’m just pointing out it that it is madness in the midst of such human wealth to think the economy can’t be managed.

What you and others appear to mean is that in its present form the economy can’t support an unproductive third for a month or two, but it can afford for its biggest retailer to pay no tax, for Trident, for HS2 and for most of the World’s biggest c*nts to run their money through here.

And you laugh at socialism for its ineptitude.

I didn’t go to Eton, so it doesn’t fall to me to sort it out. I just get to demand.

 

1. Starmer was right and the Nations appear to have been right.
2. Cummings.
3. Cummings etc

 

I'm genuinely going to go mad. Stuck at home with no end in sight and recovering from a broken ankle I can't even get out to run. Working in a new job that I started in March almost completely remotely with a terribly handle restructure playing out over the last month, no wonder my anxiety is back.

I love the pub, but I can't understand why they were ever reopened. After 2 pints, social distancing is nothing more than an abstract concept.

 

Oh dear. Is this really what happens in your head? Doing the right thing = jumping on the bandwagon?

 

1) No it doesn't. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12797578/flu-how-many-people-die-year/
2) If we don't but a brake on infections, hospitals will be overwhelmed, doctors will have to start making choices as they did in Italy of who to save and who to let die.
3) If we have to go through a cycle of lockdown/ease until a vaccine is available, so be it.
4) Letting it rip does not protect the economy - the opposite if you look at graphs of deaths vs economic damage in different countries around the world.

 

2 momths...

 

It was supposed to be 3 weeks ‘to save the NHS’ but lasted far longer. At least back then the government had an excuse for making policy up on the hoof, even if I disagreed with it. There’s no excuse now, yet I guarantee whatever Boris announces in a couple of hours will be vague, have no clear way of measuring success or a route map out the lockdown and there will be lots of blather about hope and the carrot of Christmas being dangled.

 

Obviously the virus existing will hit any economy, even if we let it rip a lot of industries would suffer anyway. But if you force certain industries to close down completely and don’t provide any financial support, clearly that’s going to hit the economy more than if they remain open with less trade. Even if financial support is available that’s just creating an economic problem for later on.

I’d hazard a guess the countries with high deaths and a harder hit economy are countries with more fragile, less developed economies in the first place.

 

Like the UK? We are among the worst at both. How do you not know this?

 

An early symptom is you start making spelling errors

 

That’s a false correlation, the fact that we have more deaths hasn’t any relevance to our economy.

We have a service lead economy, it makes up two thirds of our economy and the service industry has obviously been hammered by Covid. We are susceptible to a pandemic because of the structure of our economy, full stop. That isn’t really anyone’s fault, it’s just the way it is.

Contrast our economy to one like New Zealand, the vast majority of their income is made up from meat and dairy exports, industries that would’ve actually boomed from Covid. Their economy is simply better placed to deal with a pandemic compared to ours.

How many Covid deaths have we had here, 45,000? How do those deaths impact on the hospitality industry compared to shutting their doors to completely to every single customer and having no trade what so ever?

Obviously there is some correlation, but it’s highly simplistic and wrong to equate more deaths to a worse hit economy, and to say the economy would be even worse than locking down due to simply having more deaths.

 

Madness.

When it's not working... carry on doing more of the same.

We don't know covid isn't going to be around for the next 20 years, and it's not something we have to learn to live with.

We can't lock down every 6 months.. for ever more. This will break the economy and put millions out of work, put millions into poverty, and will take decades to recover.

 

Welcome to the start of the depression

If we thought most high streets already looked like ghost towns we haven't seen anything yet

 

You’d have thought the **** Johnson would at least have a decency to address the nation on time. Shambolic idiot:

 

I really didn't think I could dislike that imbecile even more than I did at 3pm but yes,he's managed it.
Epitomises his complete lack of leadership.
Everyone knows it is a difficult job with the virus but by Jove he could NOT have been worse.

 

I think it was just indicated that it would be reviewed after three weeks, wasn't it? So yes, I suppose you are right.

 

I had to pop down to Wembley today. Couldn't be any further from a ghost town.

 

Are you talking about Ivic? I agree with everything you've said

 

LOL at the ******* idiot medical expert that's just been on TV saying this might save the Christmas season for businesses. The economy is ****ed from here. We'll see unemployment >10%, a severe drop in local government budgets as tax revenue collapses, and a vicious circle to the bottom last seen in the late 80s. Best advice is tighten your belt, stop spending, and start saving.

 

I'm beginning to think a job swap between Vlad and Doris would not harm anyone.
I see the plan. Delay the briefing for a month and then say all is well. That's what you pay 40k a year plus for Slough Grammar.

 

6.30pm now.
Are they digging a tunnel?

 

Circuit break in Wales hasn’t stopped the rugby.

 

Or Swansea Ctty.

 

I cannot believe that more people do not understand the very basis of this argument. It's the same people that shout "muh freedoms" and "da economy". I understand it, of course I do. However the economy and your freedoms will mean nothing if you have a haemorrhagic stroke but cannot get treatment within 4.5 hours of onset because a&e is chock-full of people with covid-induced sepsis, or if someone has a myocardial infarction but don't get all the immediate medications in time from the paramedics and doctors as they're seeing elderly people in acute respiratory distress due to covid.

It's not about the average person in this country contracting covid and needing hospital admission- chances are they won't need hospital admission in the first place. It's the vulnerable contracting covid and covid-related medical problems requiring hospital admission in conjunction with people needing admission for flu- and pneumonia-related problems in conjunction with people needing admission for other medical problems like strokes, heart attacks, other infections. This normally ramps up in the winter and strangles hospitals up and down the country, but we somehow cope. With covid-related admission chucked into the hat, I don't know...

 

So the rugby ends and Doris appears.
Astonishing arrogance.
You're supposed to be running the country you half wit,not attending a supper party.