Bumbling Wroy

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by Vicarage Road, May 25, 2016.

  1. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    Saw a good line on Roy - 'Makes bad players average, but also makes good players average'. Probably true.

    Roy was only part of the problem though, the FA is the issue and nothing will change until they change. Germany don't win anything for ten years, they reform the entire system and win the world cup. The English FA on the other hand...
     
  2. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Darren Gough's football knowledge could be written on the back of a stamp, in bold.

    If you ever feel brave, watch the Iceland game back again and watch how the England players start losing confidence as a collective unit. That comes from the man at the top, they don't believe in the system whatsoever.
     
  3. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    As true as this may be (conceding League 1 goals in international football against Iceland) it's only part of the problem.

    The whole hype going into the tournament was about whether our glittering attack would be able to make up for our poor defence. I saw the poor defence but the attack was no better and arguably worse.
     
  4. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    I'd honestly go with with Big Sam if we go English or Hiddink if not
     
  5. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Matron's late with the medication this morning and I missed last night's ECT so I'm unsure who I heard Henry Winter suggested, on R4's Today, for Roy's replacement:


    as Wenger can't/won't take the job straight away. Say it ain't so.

    EDIT: There's a bit of clickbait out there suggesting that he wants Steven Gerrard as his assistant.
     
  6. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    The Gerrard thing sounds likely to me. Need to keep a HUGE name in there somewhere to appease the wavering sponsors.

    Nike - Eddie Howe, he's achieved nothing.

    FA - Yes, but we've Stevie G on board, he can be on all the posters and in the adverts!

    Nike - oh yeah, I guess people know who he is. What boots does Callum Wilson wear?
     
  7. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Of the suspects so far, I actually believe Eddie Howe is the best shout.

    We've gone for hugely proven foreigners before and the English time servers out there are completely uninspirational.

    At least Howe is an attempt to try something new. Plus he's gorgeous.
     
  8. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Jesus fkcuing Christ will you stop posting stuff like this. Someone from the FA might see it.

    Can anyone point out a summary (with not too many "big words" in it) about what the DFB did with its "Year Zero" approach to football development in their country (and especially the bit that states how they saw that it wasn't delivering so they had "Year Zero Mk II") and what it's done to their national squad - so I can keep sending it to the FA. Again and again and again and again.
     
  9. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    From the local area too and is a Watford fan, so a call up for Deeney could be on the cards??
     
  10. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    I'd also like to know how Italy do it time and time again, granted they haven't had the steady progress of Spain and Germany and like England have had a fair few poor tournaments, but they almost always bounce back. England never do.
     
  11. Beekayess

    Beekayess Reservist

    Can somebody please explain to me why a significant number of people believe that the manager of the England football team has to be English. I don't get it. The managers of the England cricket team and the England rugby union teams aren't English and it doesn't seem to have held those teams back.

    I recognise that the 2 foreign managers in the past haven't been too successful (Capello & Eriksson) but that is (surely ?) a reflection of the (in)ability of those individuals (and/or the players they had at their disposal), as opposed to their nationality. I acknowledge that an ability to speak English to a reasonable level would be advantageous (insert your own joke here about Wayne Rooney).

    I'm Scottish - the Scotland team has performed equally badly with Scottish & non-Scottish managers. :]]
     
  12. nascot

    nascot First Team

    Xenophobia.
     
  13. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Sven got us to a World Cup Quarter Final in which we should have beaten Brazil with a team that had Danny Mills, Emile Heskey, Trevor Sinclair and Nicky Butt in it.

    I think he's tainted by his off the field antics and the amount the FA were willing to pay him rather than performance on it.
     
  14. reids

    reids First Team

    Because getting managers in who have achieved things has worked so well for us.
     
  15. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Did Roy actually achieve anything more substantial than Howe has before becoming England manager? Does a run to the final of the Europa League count?
     
  16. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Big Sam for me too, I think he would be great.
     
  17. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Wouldn't be disappointed with Sam Allardyce, get's teams organised or indeed Glenn Hoddle

    Don't understand the clamour at all for peoples choice Harry Rednapp...... what the hell did he achieve in his time as club manager apart from bankrupting the likes of QPR and Portsmouth
     
  18. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    [video=youtube;I3XZniY2D-w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3XZniY2D-w[/video]
     
  19. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    I wouldn't have Redknapp either, he's over the hill (might have been good ten years ago as Sven's successor though), but to say he's achieved nothing is completely nonsensical - have you actually done any research on his managerial career?

    - Took Bournemouth to the second division for their first time in their history as champions ahead of fancied Middlesbrough, keeping them there for three seasons.
    - Got West Ham to four top flight top 10 finishes, including 5th place, developing some great England talent (it's telling that not a single West Ham player made the England squad at the Euros, that would have been unthinkable during the pre-Pardew days) - previously they'd only managed that in 11 seasons out of 77
    - Took perennial Div.1 relegation strugglers Portsmouth up to the Premiership as runaway champions, keeping them up comfortably in their first season in the top flight for 15 years and only their second in 44. In his second spell, after keeping up a team that looked certainties for relegation, he narrowly missed out on qualification for the UEFA Cup via the league two seasons running, winning the FA Cup during that period
    - Almost got a UEFA Cup place in his first season at Spurs after they looked in danger of going down the same season, and turned a mostly midtable underachieving side into an established top 5 team, bringing Champions League football back to the Lane for the first time in nearly half a century and getting to the quarter finals in only his second full season there

    His only real failure was at Southampton, and while QPR wasn't very good, he did get them back up to the Premier League at the first attempt after relegation, which doesn't happen very often.

    There's a reason why he's often been nominated as England manager, and it's not simply due to his friends in high places or media chums, contrary to what his detractors love to believe.
     
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I see the FA are going to ask Stuart Lancaster for advice - well he did manage to get England out of a World Cup at the first hurdle!


    Surely asking his successor in Eddie Jones might be a better option?
     
  21. iamofwfc

    iamofwfc Squad Player

    Don't forget how "honest harry" stabbed Billy bonds in the back and also left West Ham in the financial smelly stuff, also did a great job at southampton.
     

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