Bournemouth To Discuss Legal Challenge After Premier League Relegation

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  1. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    What is mind boggling is the lack of common sense and a degree of latitude for officials to do the right thing. It makes them and the governing bodies look like idiots. If he had been allowed to the official could have decided or the fourth official inform him that despite Hawkeye failing that the replay clearly shows the ball over the line. Award the goal. Common sense is a faculty sorely lacking at the moment in all walks of life.
     
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  2. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    Would we have stayed up if that goal stood, and Villa lost? Or would we of gone down due to Muff beating Everton convincingly on the last day?
     
  3. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    If all the other results had remained the same Villa would have been relegated and not Bournemouth, however if Villa had had the goal stand against them they may well have lost that game and not had the impetus to grind out their other results giving us more hope of staying up! Goal difference would have changed so it would certainly been a close run thing, whether we would have stayed up - no one will ever know!!
     
  4. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

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  5. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Interesting to see where he ends up. Got to think him leaving will lessen their chances next season
     
  6. dsr

    dsr Academy Graduate

    False twitter rumours do not reflect badly on the PL or the FA. It is not their fault if false rumours are spread. The rules did allow for VAR to alert the referee to the goal, but the VAR man was not quick enough to realise this, so lack of common sense in the governing body can't be blamed.
     
  7. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Academy Graduate

    This is true and begs the question "what was the VAR man doing? " .
    He had one job FFS !.
     
  8. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    As Woosnam said to his caddy!
     
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  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    VAR is only being used to manipulate matches and they are getting away with it. He clearly saw the ball had crossed the line in the Villa v Sheff Utd game, but ignored it. He clearly saw the ball hit Sakho's back in the Villa v Palace game but overruled the 'goal'. He clearly saw the handball and penalty we should have had a Spurs and ignored it, he clearly saw the handball at Newcastle but ignored it, he clearly saw the handball at Southampton but ignored it, he clearly saw the push on Cathcart and Mina's handball against Everton, but ignored it. But he spots the coming together between Lacazzete and Dawson challenge against Arsenal and advises a penalty should be awarded, yet ignores Cahill's arm around Deeney's neck pulling him to the ground at Palace..........and the list goes on and on.

    VAR is a tool for manipulation. So now you run the gauntlet that one referee maybe clean, but another maybe bent. Instead of cleaning up the game so mistakes are reduced, what has now happened is the chances of fixing the outcome of a game has doubled.

    It worked for them as the Premier League managed to get rid of the more unfashionable sides and have been replaced by mighty Leeds and a more established West Brom. Their product is more exciting because of it, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters. They'll be hoping Brentford go up too, just to add a sprinkle of romance, as Bournemouth's story became stale.

    I predict next season, Burnley will be the team that's dumped on by VAR. I'll be looking out for that.
     
  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    And didn't Real Madrid get about 50 penalties in La Liga too ..?

    Lots of complaints about that in Spain I heard.
     
  11. Harrybassetthater

    Harrybassetthater Academy Graduate

    100% spot on.
     
  12. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I do find it unbearable how many morons still continue to talk about this fake Bournemouth "fairytale" and what a "miracle" their rise has been.

    If a miracle is being bankrolled by an ultra wealthy Russian throughout their rise through the leagues and consistently spending well, well beyond their actual means as a tiny football club, and even being fined for breaking FFP, then yes, it's a miracle.

    People really do believe everything Sky Sports tells them.
     
  13. sgu02nsc

    sgu02nsc Academy Graduate

    I agree. What was very impressive was when they started League 1 on -17 points and managed to stay up (before they were bankrolled). With a skeleton squad and little money they would have made the playoffs If they didn’t start of with —17.
     
  14. easthertshornet

    easthertshornet Reservist

    Don't forget the use of VAR to overrule the referee to send off Kabasele
     
  15. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Yes....as I mentioned there are many instances and virtually all went against us. I remember VAR overruled the referee against Burnley and gave them a penalty, which killed the game. It was a correct overrule, but it seems if it's a correct call against us it's given, but if it's a correct call for us, it's not...and vice versa. The red card Mings should have been shown at Villa. The red card for Pereyra against Tranmere in the Cup, which was reviewed and not overturned, but was later by the review panel. Basically it conspires to go against us whether it's right or wrong. We just get hammered every time, but then it's all smoothed over at the end of the season with a table to show Watford would have been no better or worse off by VAR decisions, as if we've all been lobotomised.

    I was hoping VAR would be used fairly, but it wasn't. It has just shown up the officials for what they are. If you're kind you can label them incompetent, but I personally feel it's deliberate and at some level, whether it's by design or subconscious, the authorities want smaller clubs out of the Premier League, apart from novelty clubs, like a Bournemouth or a Brentford if they go up. That adds to their product by having a romantic story to go along with the collection of the biggest clubs.

    I predict the next club to be in the firing line will be Burnley. Expect them to get a load of bad VAR calls next season.
     
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  16. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Which was the correct decision.

    The problem with any debate about VAR is the same old thing, every single decision against your team is a bad/wrong decision. Every decision for your team is the right one. The argument has shifted from the referee to VAR and most people don't realise it's ultimately the same thing.

    Next season we'll be criticising the ref for every decision we don't get and wishing for VAR back.
     
  17. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    The trouble is that Muff will probably get away with their diving tactics in the Chump without VAR. I firmly believe that Muff were relegated this season because so many of the calls that usually went their way before VAR, went against them because VAR exposed them for the divers that they are.
     
  18. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    You don't think that the tactics were anything to do with the manager, then?
     
  19. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I did not say that did I :rolleyes:

    However the favourite to take over from Howe was his assistant, therefore a similar ethos with a penchant for diving might well be expected me thinks ;)
     
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  20. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    Finally someone has said it.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53628740

    "Relegation is a huge blow for Bournemouth, and these are not the "plucky little Cherries" the romantics will sometimes talk about. That narrative is somewhat mythical.

    Bournemouth are owned by a wealthy and ambitious Russian businessman - Maxim Demin.

    Let's not forget this is the club that had to pay £4.75m to the Football League in July 2018 to settle a Financial Fair Play dispute arising from their promotion to the Premier League in 2014-15. They had originally been expected to be fined £7.6m after accruing a loss of £38.3m as they won the Championship."
     

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