Anti-Semitism

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by molly, May 14, 2016.

  1. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think all but 2 of the people who've run sub 10 seconds on 100m in history are not just black, but specifically black, West African heritage (Frankie Fredericks and Christophe Lemaitre the only exceptions). I'm sure there's even more specific genealogy involved (ie. From select tribal heritage eg. Ashanti). There's a similar correlation between distance runners and peoples's from the great Rift Valley in East Africa.

    It's not racist, anymore than saying that Portuguese people are, on average, far shorter than Dutch and so less likely to be good basketball players other high jumpers.

    However, to say that Jews are all predisposed to be money grabbing scum is racist, because one is about physiology and one is about character. Also one is completely untrue and demonstrably so.
     
  2. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Blimey Godfather think it through for heaven's sake. How can you possibly not have noticed anti-semitism? Did you spend the 20th century in a coma?
     
  3. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    As a child I lived in some far flung places like Nigeria and Aberdeeen and of course the Isle of Man but even in Hemel Hempstead with a Jewish best friend I never encountered it, it really seems to be a mostly adult theme. After returning to the SE in the eighties I did hear a fair bit regarding greed etc. but nothing compared to the treatment of blacks and Asians, it really was tame in comparison. From 1989 to 2004 I lived in Germany, surprisingly who's folk seemed far more tolerant of other races and here up on the Wirral the subject is very rarely broached although Israel still gets plenty of scorn for it's politics.

    So there you have it, we know it's there and for sure they are are targeted by Muslims everywhere but IMO a lot of screaming is directed at the wrong people who mostly couldn't care less. FFS they still bang on about the holocaust as if it were yesterday.
     
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  4. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Why no black swimmers?
     
  5. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The number of Jewish intellectuals in various countries is far higher than their actual percentage in that population. Envy also perpetrates hate. They encourage their children to study hard and achieve as with Hindu and Sikh families and their consequent success in whatever country their diaspora arrives is extremely high. I think you and Molly and have issues if you don't think anti-semitism is not an issue at present in Europe.
     
  6. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The Dutch team and American team have had very good black swimmers recently. It's more of a cultural thing which sport to pop into. In comparison to football where very few subcontinental people have emerged as players compare that to cricket in recent years.
     
  7. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    You could say that about English enclaves abroad as in the Dordogne.
     
  8. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    My point entirely as opposed to Lowerrouse's racist effort.

    It is a problem in Europe but not so much by European society
     
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  9. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Yes I could, it's a natural phenomenon but it's not one I heartily support.
     
  10. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    You don't say! so why are black athletes even mentioned?
     
  11. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    Anti-semitism is like being a Watford supporter...

    A) the vast majority of people have no opinion on Waford and will take it as it comes
    B) a small, but very vocal, minority have a negative opinion about Watford although they do not have a clue about the facts. It becomes hugely tiresome having to correct the opinions that this minority has formed based on incorrect information
    C) there is an even smaller minority with a real axe to grind. Those that are quite happy to see Watford obliterated and will do anything they can to make that happen. Again their opinion is based on no facts but often a lack of education

    For the record Godfather - you sit squarely in B. Clueless but vocal
     
  12. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Don't underestimate that last section, I'm sure there are many Muslims that would celebrate Israel's destruction and it's a massive threat ... However it really has nothing to do with Labour politics or boxers being deliberately obnoxious only for publicity. That in my opinion is minor shit that you need to rise above or your reputation as whingers will only grow.
     
  13. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    so accept it...so Muslims should just accept any islamaphobic references, blacks ignore any racist comments, Jews ignore anti-Semitic comments incase the knuckle draggers like you accuse us of whinging

    Oh you truly are priceless
     
  14. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    No not ignore but the song and dance should be commensurate. Yes our media is much to blame and they're just tring to sell copy but obviously their tactics are working, you seem to be looking for problems that hardly exist.

    It will do you no favours.
     
  15. reids

    reids First Team

    Yup, also nothing that requires lighting (except cannabis)
     
  16. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Even then in today's strengths it can be psychologically damaging ... you youngsters would only laugh at what was considered great weed back in my day.
     
  17. reids

    reids First Team

    Oh for sure, as with pretty much anything, moderation is key.
     

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