(18) Andre Gray

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by hornmeister, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    In European football, how many times have we seen balls zipped across the box like that? We see different results - a goal, an own goal, no contact, a small contact from attacker, pace and/or position of ball meaning attacker trying to score with 'other foot', ball hitting defender first, defender scooping the ball over the bar. Seen it all the time over the years. I seen better players than Gray not score those.
     
  2. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Is this not tiring for you? I now have a begrudging respect for your commitment to this bit.
     
  3. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    He had two unbelievable chances to score yesterday. The header could of gone anywhere but somehow goes straight in the keepers arms. Kikos cross was begging to be put away, it did seem to kick up badly after the bounce but in my eyes his body shape was all wrong and never looked like he was going to finish it unfortunately. I personally don't want him in the squad let alone start but he's involved at the moment.
    Pedro is the way forward in that position at the moment but I want him there on merit not just because Gray is hopeless. I so wanted him to make me eat my words again by scoring again but the overall performance was not a good watch.
     
  4. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Absolutely. But he never looked confident in even getting a touch on it. Strange considering he got two the game before. Whether it be confidence, lack of ability or something else I couldn't answer.
     
  5. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett First Year Pro

    Correct.
    But those players regularly score those bread and butter tap ins . Unlike AG.
     
  6. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett First Year Pro

    The header was quite difficult. AG hit the target , so no criticism from me
     
  7. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I thought that chance was easier than the cross tbh.
     
  8. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett First Year Pro

    An in form fox in the box striker is like a coiled spring just waiting for that 1 chance in front of goal .
    The anticipation and awareness is what gives that type of player those vital few milliseconds in front of goal which makes goal scoring look easy . Nothing worse than a ball bobbling along the 6 yard area with either no one anywhere near the ball or a striker on his heels or taking an air shot . It is the equivalent of the GK letting a ball squirm under his body .
    That was AGs big chance. A chance to start a scoring run . His chance to stake his place in the next team .
    3 in 2 makes it hard for the boss to leave you out .
    AG fluffed his lines. Again.
     
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  9. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    He may have been on his heels for that split second as the ball came in so had to go with other foot, and/or ball too quick to use his normal foot or a combination of both. As stated, seen a lot of them balls go in over the years and it don't always work out for the attacker.

    Hungbo hit a dangerous ball in the box second half but no player in our side gambled to get into the box. Sometimes a split second decision of anticipation needs to be made, it ain't so easy at that level of the game and it is easier to just criticise instead. I seen 'top flight' games where the co-commentattor has said "So-and-so didn't gamble".
     
  10. Irishorn

    Irishorn Gael Force

    This comes down to confidence, belief and desire. At various stages in his career, he would have slotted that chance away without a second thought. For a long period of time he has lost that mindset, which is a shame for him and a gigantic loss for the club. He has to be aware of the negativity and that doesn’t help. The nature of being a well paid professional footballer is that you will be the subject of adulation when things are going well and heavy criticism when you are not performing to expectations. Some can deal with the attention better than others. His off field behaviour has not helped him build a link with the supporters.

    A good man manager might get some more from him, but it would need some major buy in from Gray. His opportunities are running out.
     
  11. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Gray isn't one of them. He is a backup striker. He has had his chance earlier in the season to claim no 1 spot and blew it. Lacks consistency these days. But he is a willing runner willing to try and get on the end of things, I will give him that.

    And as I have already said I seen balls go in like that where attackers stretch and they don't always score.
     
  12. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    I don't think the header was 'an unbelievable chance'.
     
  13. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett First Year Pro

    A back up striker ?
    You don't get much
    for 80k a week these days
     
  14. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    So what do you want him to do, go to the chairman and say "by the way, i'm not that good these days can you knock 70% of my wages off". Isn't gonna happen.
    He just needs to be sold for an upgrade.
     
  15. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    How about "either side of the keeper and he scores"?
     
  16. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett First Year Pro

    I certainly don't blame AG for signing his contract , whoever thought the AG deal was value for money needs to take the can for that one.
     
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  17. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Disagree. Edge of the 6 yard box just off a central position. See the ball all the way from Kikos foot. Should bury that chance.
     
  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    In fairness, criticise Gray's technique all you like, but he's not the tallest, hard for him to get proper purchase on it. The chance from that other cross was a sitter unfortunately
     
  19. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Well as a former forward I'd of preferred the headed chance to the one on my left foot.
    Let's be honest he didn't even need to jump for the header and as for height he is exactly the same as a certain Heidar Helguson. He would do buried that header.
     
  20. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Header was a decent chance but the chance at the start of the second half he needs to be scoring from. He had got there, the ball wasn’t travelling at the speed of light and the cross was at a good height.
    I did think he played quite well overall but his job is to score goals and he should have got at least one yesterday
     
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  21. You think it’s unbelievable that it was an unbelievable chance ?
    Unbelievable Jeff.
     
  22. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    It would have helped if he’d actually headed the ball, rather than let it smack off his face. In the replay, you can clearly see him rubbing his face afterwards, as though his eyes are watery.

    Typical lack of technique.
     
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  23. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Silly sod!
    Gray,not you!
     
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  24. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I think Gray may have the same Argentinean poltergeist:
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  25. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    That could explain a lot, AG obviously has an evil spirit working against him who blocks all his shots, I mean what else could explain his wayward shooting :D
     
  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

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  28. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

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  29. RS2

    RS2 First Year Pro

    Good luck to him, if you get a chance of international football then take it.
     
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  30. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    No need to rush back Andre, enjoy the sunshine
     
  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Also in the Reggae Boyz squad of interest to us is Mapps, who's on 49 caps at the moment, and Brentford's Pinnock. Would love to see Mapps make his half century although he's got a lot of competition up against a few others in the top 2 divisions of English football, would love to see Pinnock exhausted
     
  32. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Neil or Glenys?
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Leigh-Anne.
     
  34. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Would actually be a massive piss take if he jets off around the world after finally deciding he wants to play for Jamaica at 29 years old, whilst we are in the midst of a promotion battle and a pandemic where he's twice very publicly broken the rules.
     
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  35. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Exactly.
     

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