9/11 Conspiracy or not?

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by luke_golden, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Well after becoming sick and tired of a mate raving on and on about the 9/11 conspiracy theory i decided it was time to finally watch the documentary he so dearly loves. Loose-Change, im sure many of you will have heard about it.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change

    Anyway, it was an interesting watch, however their bias is plainly evident throughout and the conspiracy propaganda can get a bit too much, however some of the questions raised undoubtably sow the seeds of doubt. Interested by what i'd seen i decided to do a little bit of research myself and found numerous conspiracy theory forums, groups and websites. Lots of people, not just Americans have begun asking questions, indeed, Loose-change was originally scheduled to be played in the House of Commons although i'm led to believe that the funding needed was cut.

    Personally, I can't see it being true, although there are a few strange things that definately add to the shades of doubt. Wonder if anybody else has seen the documentary and what they made of it?

    If you've got a spare hour to kill, it's well worth a watch, and with all the conspiracy theorists on here i felt it was appropriate. I mean, if you believe Marlon attacked aidy/wasn't injured/was injured but is now fully fit only the board to relegate us so wont let him play then your sure to love this.
     
  2. ryan_wfc

    ryan_wfc Reservist

    very intresting

    don;t realy belive that anything did happen,but it does raise douts
     
  3. Rookery_'Orn!

    Rookery_'Orn! Squad Player

    u watch the whole thing ryan?
     
  4. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    the yanks new it was going to happen, allowed it to happen, thought they got a good enough excuse to send troops over to strategic areas in afghan, then bamboozled the world with the bin laden connection to saddam and then went into Iraq and now have over 100k servce people there.

    question, what they doing about bin laden? He wa the actual reason given for going into the mountains of afghan and the war on terror.

    its all about the oil and strategic positioning - Iran is also on the USA agenda - not a bad manouvre Israel/USA - Iran - Iraq/USA

    all above is my opinion and view no facts etc are included.
     
  5. fan

    fan slow toaster

    do you not think they would be a tad reticent about doing something on that large a scale which is so open to global scrutiny? although i don't think anything dodgy happened it seems to me if i was going to make a conspiracy, i would encourage ridiculous explanations like short change to divert focus away from other questionable government policies.
     
  6. ryan_wfc

    ryan_wfc Reservist

    i have watched it before

    you can create a conpirsy about anying givin enuf time

    all the peoples reactions can't count because of the shock of all this happening around them
     
  7. coll123

    coll123 Reservist

    just watch the whole video and its very intresting but im not sure anythink did happen
     
  8. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    what, like you mean the same as the yanks landing on the moon, nothing happened - what's that secret area in USA zone 52 or something?

    Yank governments cheat and lie, thats how they have become so powerful. Honesty doesn't pay.
     
  9. coll123

    coll123 Reservist

    well ok it did cross my mind when watching that video maybe they did plan this attack and yes there certain bits what prove that it was planed but at the end of the day would they risk such attack on there own people??? thats a question we will never find out and it happen well over 5years ago now and i cant see any one looking into to it just because it been and gone
     
  10. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    At the ned of the day, the yanks do not care about humanity and human life and will sacrifice humans, for the ake of the good of the USA.

    All this shyte about weapons of mass destruction, who is the country that dropped the atom bomb? wiping out hundreds of thousands in one fell swoop.without shame. Thats why they can do what they want with just a ittle hand smack from the UN.

    USA are in control and its a bad bad situation for the world - a country with uck all history -- oops sorry the history was lost when all the native Indians were wiped out.

    Barsteward Bush has gone on throughiut his leadership, that the USA will not cut or be part of any treaty to help solve global warming - look what happened, New Orleans sunk - no sympathy from me.

    They brainwash their own stupid population but I shall not believe a word the yanks ever say.

    Greedy, egoistic, ignorant ******s.

    These are my opinions not facts, one either agrees, disagrees or has no view.
     
  11. Birdydoug

    Birdydoug The Flying Scotsman

  12. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

  13. fan

    fan slow toaster

    watford might be in for some 'blue on blue' as they so nicely term it now!
     
  14. Birdydoug

    Birdydoug The Flying Scotsman

    If anyone is interested in this stuff there is a very good book called "Above Top Secret" by somebody called Green, deals with all of this in great detail.

    That is Area 51
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2007
  15. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    When Jay score an own goal, its called a 'friendly own goal'.
     
  16. lendal

    lendal Reservist

    sooner george dubbwa goes the better - c'mon hilary
     
  17. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    who does george dubbwa play for Lendal - is he a non leaguer?
     
  18. Tenhourslater™

    Tenhourslater™ The Late mod

    Its no coincidence that the yanks go to war with someone every ten years , they do it to use up all of the old weapons , saves on decommissioning costs. Also helps to road test the new ones .


    Then when they get bored and public opinion starts to get at them back home , they decide the job has been done , walk away as though nothing ever happened .
     
  19. ryan_wfc

    ryan_wfc Reservist

    PYA do you have Conspiracy meetings on match days?:)
     
  20. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    It's all going to kick off soon once the Chinese realise their potential. Not even the Yankey Doodles have that much cannon fodder, even less of it willing to lay down their lives for the flag.

    Evidently there is always going to be 'dodgy' deals within every government, look no further than our own for examples. Dr Kelly suicide anybody? Fact is we'll never know, or at least not until its a few years too late. It's a shame the word democracy means little to people these days.
     
  21. HornetteCarly

    HornetteCarly Future Mrs Henderson

    Coming from the mouth of our future PM *golf clap* ;D
     
  22. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Ahh but you see, I intend to change this. Once i've made England into a totalitarian regime there will be no problems. Dissenters will be 'disappeared' and Luton will be nothing more than a weapons testing zone. This in itself will save lives, as mentioned before, The US likes to start wars against feeble (or so they think) opposition in order to use old weapons and test new ones. Once im running the show i'll just direct them to Luton. Easy.

    Any other questions about my policies?

    Luke Your Future Prime Minister

    I Thank You
     
  23. HornetteCarly

    HornetteCarly Future Mrs Henderson

    Can you like hurt people...?
     
  24. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    I said nothing about hurting people, merely 'disappear' them. You can't hurt somebody who never existed can you, therefore negating the crime. Plus, with me making the laws who's to say whats wrong and whats right apart from me. The word of Luke is final.

    I Thank You

    Luke aka Mr Golden aka Polski aka Future PM
     
  25. HornetteCarly

    HornetteCarly Future Mrs Henderson

    You know what... after that... im not gonna vote for you.
     
  26. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    I can assure you that you'll be in the minority. Anyways i'm no dictator, love and be loved is my motto. And if thats not got you back on side, we don't need you.

    Viva La Luke

    I Thank You
     
  27. Birdydoug

    Birdydoug The Flying Scotsman

    The whole thing is based around oil, who has it controls the world.
     
  28. fan

    fan slow toaster

    this is getting really close to the kind of conversation i have with taxi drivers. and almost always they border on the stupid side of paranoid
     
  29. fan

    fan slow toaster

    Baby I'm more than a little concerned you see
    about the New World Order conspiracies
    And the covert spreading of deadly disease
    They've got earthquake machines and UFO's
    and black helicopters wherever we go
    But I forget them all when you are with me
    They can telepathically moniter my mind I'm not scared of what
    they'll find - Let them do what they're gonna do
    Cuz if the government can read my mind
    they know I'm thinking of you.

    They've got secretly funded internment camps
    and biological warfare labs
    But when you look at me they all don't seem so bad
    They've got Martian traded technology,
    and mind control psychology
    I'll let them do what they wanna do
    Cuz if the government can read my mind
    they know I'm thinking of you.

    I could stockpile food and join a militia
    but I'd rather stay at home and kiss ya
    Let them do what they're gonna do
    Cuz if the government can read my mind
    they know I'm thinking of you.

    If the government can read my mind baby,
    you know it doesn't matter what
    they find, cuz if the government can read my mind
    they know I'm thinking of you.

    aaah the vandals, we hardly knew ye
     
  30. Arthur Daley

    Arthur Daley Guest

  31. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    Greece has a load of olive oil - but their weapon of mass distruction is Kebabs - but even they don't work as fat boy Lee Cook is living proof.
     
  32. Oliver Philips MBE

    Oliver Philips MBE Academy Graduate

    Conspiracies, one of my favourite subjects.....

    Not saying your right or wrong Paddy, but I've got to say I think the yanks would have found an excuse to go into Iraq and Afganistan without having to have allowed 3000 of their own people be killed. They've gone to war for less Vietnam for example.

    As for Bin Laden, the more interesting question (I think) is do they actually want to capture him? No, they have the resources and the money to bride people into handing him over, or to find him of their own accord. If they get hold of him what do they do with him? execute him and make him a bigger martyr? Upset the Saudi and lose a valuable source of oil? He's their latest pin up boy, the bogey man times ten, the next greatest firgure for the American public to wipped up into a frenzy about, so they can ignore the people sleeping on the streets of their cities, rampant poverty and open wounds like New Orleans...
     
  33. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    Totally agree about not wanting to capture bin laden, they hav been so close so many times, if the guy is dead, they won't tell us, for the same reason as not capturing him. He's probably in a holiday home in the Bahama's on the yankee tax payers money.

    I would have thought it hard to find an excuse without UN/International approval these days so the sacrifice of a couple plane loads and 3000 twin tower people in the universal spectre of things is really irrelevent. They would look at the view that Spock once quoted " The need of the many is greater than the need of the one", in this case the many being, millions and the few less than 5,000.
     
  34. crazylegz' back again

    crazylegz' back again First Year Pro

    :eek: :eek: :eek: :( I am not as interlectually able to discuss this in great detail, a few questions...

    Are our Government involved in this sort of stuff with the Yanks???

    What will become of the world?? Interlectual view on this please!

    anyone else think a march next sunday,not this one we're marching for the flag, to uninvolve us with america would be best.

    One thing i can say is Blair=Bush's Andrex Puppy!

    Worrying stuff that video, normally i think conspiracy theories are all total and utter BS made up by some **** with nothing to do, this one really made me think, i think the conspiracy is a conspiracy(I have no way to elaborate on this so DON'T ASK!!)
     
  35. Arthur Daley

    Arthur Daley Guest

    go back to your bustops rolland;D;D;D
     

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