Watford Fc 1-1 Stoke City - 29/12/2023

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by SkylaRose, Dec 28, 2023.

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Who Will Win?

Poll closed Dec 30, 2023.
  1. Watford

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  2. Stoke

    27.8%
  3. Draw

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  4. Frank Butcher on Tanoy again?

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  1. hornetboy1

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    Yes I know we’re not going to get relegated. Who said we were?
     
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    I used to notice the drop off in intensity and quality if we played three in a week in the PL, so certainly agree four in just over that is far from ideal. I suppose Chesterfield offers an opportunity to rest and rotate?

    Happy New Year to you too!
     
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    Yeah Sporting Index has on 64-66 points which is better objective indicator of probability.

    So if someone really thought we were that crap and would be lucky to get to 50 points and sold at £100 per point they would win £1400. However, if the same person had thought we'd possibly only have 22 by Christmas then they would already be £1200 down so perhaps a good thing they lack the conviction to put their money where their mouth is.
     
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    More spin. It never ends with you. You just can’t help yourself can you?
     
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    Not true - the Watford market opened at 63-65.

    Pretty much always been seen as midtable runner by Sporting Index (high/low over season I think has been 67/59).
     
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    Great pun :)
     
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    We're the most mid-table of mid-table sides.

    However Val has had us well motivated and playing as a team, and a really good run of performances and results for this squad has pushed us on a bit.

    Very hard to predict how we'll do tonight. Our obvious shortcomings remain however at least we've found some strengths to balance these out a bit.

    January window will be crucial if we want to actually do any better than we are now, I think this squad is doing about as well as it ever will without reinforcements.
     
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    Looking forward to hearing the Stoke fans get behind their team by singing about a bloke who murders his wife in a jealous rage
     
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    If this was a weekend week to week fixture I'd favour us but it's a bit of a lottery atm with games having come thick and fast.
     
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    "Why,why,why?"
     
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    I thought Watford market opened in the 12th century ?
     
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    Average Saturday night fare in Stoke….
     
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    I checked the sporting index market before I posted this morning and it was 64.5 - 66.5. Its still showing that spread on my app.

    I'm increasingly getting the impression you're not terribly fond of me but really I was telling the truth so it wasn't necessary to challenge me.

    But regardless of a point either way the principle still stands that if someone was really certain we are that bad they could make a fair bit of money by selling at 63/64 or 64.5.
     
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    Sounds like you don’t like the boot on the other foot to me.
     
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    Wither Dennis?
     
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    Healy and Sema with knocks to add with Lewis. Both to be assessed before Plymouth on Monday,
     
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    Is sema suspended ?? Missed the last game ….
     
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    Injured .

    I thought Louza was too.

    Lots of changes - better hope the team gel quickly!
     
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    Hmmmm... Stoke will be encouraged looking at that. Hell, I'd like to play against our "full backs"
     
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    Slightly anxious about the line up. Maybe Louza not gone yet.
     
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    Healy out for the season then
     
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    My point was simple. At the start of the season the quote was also 64-66 so a seller then would not have lost money as you incorrectly stated.
     
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    Why TDB and not Andrews at right back?
     
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    With a full first-choice team I would have fancied us to win this. Now I'm not at all sure. I think we'll particularly miss Kayembe.
     
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    Final Shout box of 2023 up
     
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    Fecx. What a lineup.

    I just can't wait for the inevitable over-exaggerated, over the top meltdown if we lose this.
     
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    Ken out for a month according to the Norfolk Horns.
     
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    If we lose this, it'll indicate we're in a false position and should be in the bottom six.

    If we win this, it'll indicate that we have a lot of strength in depth and could make a run at the play-offs.

    If it's a draw, I don't know what it'll say. Probably something in between the two, I'd expect.

    #RecencyBias
     
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    Is Val making a point to Pozzo, playing TDB at right back?

    Is there no alternative?
     
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    He was certainly making a sulky point to the ref when he got booked and refused to look at him.
     
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    What have they done to him? Have they demanded a ransom?
     
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    A lot of the time it is not what we do or try to do that is the problem; it's the lack of quality with which we do it. Each and every final ball into the box, for instance is slightly over-hit, each control under pressure is slightly untidy ---and the chance is lost. You could say the same for Stoke, mind. Maybe most of our players are just mid-table ordinary.
    This applies to our defence, but, in addition, they are all over the place.
    We could and should still win this, however.
     
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