The Championship 2020-21

No not me though I vaguely remember reading such a post. Think the writer said it was the only disease completely eliminated by a vaccine. I was always sure there'd be a vaccine but that it would be rolled out til 2021.

 

They seem to struggle against the Birmingham types, Millwall and Cardiff are essentially better Birminghams. Bournemouth will be interesting and could go either way. It’s great for us the playoffs are so tight now as Bournemouth will need to win.

 

http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/covid-19-virus.56782/page-112#post-2858639

Post 3896.

(Sorry, haven’t a clue how to post from another thread to here).

Anyway, seems I may have been the worrisome one there in misreading your intentions. Apologies!

 

Bear in mind that all teams' forums have a high percentage of bedwetters!

 

There are currently so many variables as to who needs to beat who, who has the harder games, who have more games to play. The only constant is that we all need to keep winning games, but by virtue of our outstanding recent form we however need to win less games than Brentford and Swansea. If they both win the lot fair do's.

 

Ha, just seen this. Yes I read and repeated that fact about smallpox being the only one eradicated.
I don't think I'm negative, just realistic.
The rest of the world always seems either over optimistic or over pessimist. I'm a numbers man so I look at the facts and then apply scenarios. For example all seem to assume we will win at Luton. They are mid table, we have won 7 of last 8(?). However I'm conscious that 1/ we aren't so great away 2/ This is their cup final, with nothing else to play for 3/ their manager heavily criticised their lack of Derby fight last time. I can see us dropping 3 or 2 points. I can see us losing at Norwich and/or Brentford. Brentford have refound their mojo. If we drop points on Saturday and against Norwich and Brentford I can see us finishing 3rd. Think we are strong favourites for 2nd but think it will be closer than many others think.
We always knew it was a tough endkng so we needed a buffer .We have the buffer, hopefully it's enough..

 

Beat a sh*t Lu*on side, beat a very average Millwall side and we are up.

I even think we will go to Norwich and get something.

 

I agree, if you say their games in hand are won, we still have 6/7 point advantage and need to play them both, (and they will both need to defeat us), as a draw is no good for them. If they manage that then so be it. I expect someone will now start to fret that Bournemouth will snatch automatic promotion from us, following their upturn in form.

 

I think Norwich will be happy enough to draw with us as it contains us a little bit and keeps us away from them. To be honest though I am confident of beating them we have beaten them the last three times we have played them and have picked up more points than them since Munoz come in.

 

I do wonder if games like Brum, Sheffield Wednesday and Huddersfield are actually more difficult than the likes of Cardiff and Millwall at this stage in the season? On paper the latter are better, but they don't have anything to play for whereas the former are fighting for their lives

 

This weekend has a horribly familiar feeling of the end of last season where we played first and won vs Newcastle and I think we all thought job done, only for villa to smash palace and Bournemouth to smash Leicester which I personally think ultimately destroyed any remaining confidence we had.

Just feels like last night I was almost nonchalant that we were up and tonight I'm feeling more nervous than ever!

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I am rather far from the most effusive poster here in my praise for Xisco, but to give him his due I'm fairly sure that he understands how the game of football works already, as well as the concept of a rivalry.

 

I'm sure they'd be fine with a draw, but I don't see them playing for it at all. Should be a good game in fairness, both teams have ridiculous talents who can massively hurt the other

 

I'm not even a declared Republican but the general public reaction to anything involving the Royal Family shocks me every single time, alongside bafflement, as at least somewhat right-thinking people absolutely lose their minds over people they've never met and who affect their lives in no way whatsoever.

The BBC's decision to suspend BBC4 all evening, purely for reasons of displaying a message urging people to switch to BBC one to watch the 12th hour of random talking heads repeating for the 7th time what a hilarious bloke Phillip was/holding the viewer hostage by some form of implied guilt, was utterly, utterly inexplicable, as well as unjustifiable.

It's also absolutely true, I think, that those associated with the women's national team have a serious case for complaint given it was their game that was ditched for no real reason at all, and to ask (as they/some have) whether the same action would have been taken for a men's fixture.

 

Utterly bizarre. The bloke was 99 as well, the bloke dying was about as likely as night following day.

 

Maybe so, but to be fair you can't go on the BBC Sport website now without having to wade through the articles with a fine toothcomb and work out which is men's or women's sport. So the BBC are trying to push it, even if the women's six nation rugby feed had about 4,000 people viewing it, and the tucked away in the corner Premier League live feed had over 100K viewing it. Anyway, I digress from the thread.

 

I don't even entirely disagree in that, speaking as someone who has paid my own money to go to the Women's Champions League Final amongst other women's games, it has clearly been oddly artificially boosted in visibility enormously and far above demand in recent years by broadcasters, as well as an odd ditching of journalistic clarity, one of the things theoretically held most sacrosanct by the industry, on the altar of text-reporting of that side of the game.

That being said, I think in this particular instance what happened works entirely against the point you're making, and what it tells us most of all is that the broadcasters' hierarchy of mentalness is topped by the Royals above all other possible cause celebres.

 

Yeah I do get your point. However, they could have just made a bad call with good intentions. Wasn't the game shown online though (iPlayer)? So it's not like they totally scrubbed it.

 

You'd be surprised. Apparently all those years ago when Ray Lewington was the manager and we lost to the scum at home in the League Cup, he admitted after the game that he had not appreciated the depth of the intense hatred and rivalry and hadn't drummed that into the players before the game.

 

I’m not sure what you mean by “general public reaction”.

I don’t think the response of the BBC reflects that of “the general public” at all.

I was pissed off that they postponed Gardeners World!

 

I mean the fact that even ITV cancelled the entire rest of their schedule, as did Channel 5 until about 9pm! Add that to the people ringing in to GMB and This Morning, and writing things in national newspapers, and commenting on that, and appearing on the internet, and gathering outside royal palaces to purchase and lay flowers and cry about the death (my friend was ridiculously coincidentally in Windsor yesterday on a bike ride and said he saw people milling around crying, then telling other people what had happened, to which the other people 'let out a cry' in realisation.) I can hardly type that, even, for cringing.

Even people who, as I said, I mostly consider right-thinking (like my own mother) start losing their minds and reacting in ways I just can't fathom, when the Royals get involved.

 

Mmm. On the other hand I have just read a Guardian article reporting that people switched off the coverage yesterday in droves.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...prince-philip-coverage?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The people you report certainly exist, but I’m not convinced this is how most people feel.

 

Me neither, but it doesn't really have to because I wasn't actually making a factual claim that a precise majority of all people in the UK react in that exact manner - the fact that there is a large and significant group that does so is what I am commenting on. I read that article too, and I was delighted, although by the time I clicked on the link for the complaint page it was already down. That being said, not that I'm contending it's the opposite and everyone else in the country is obsessed, again, but 'a lot of people complaining' will be an infinitesimally small figure by any population count, so it's not a direct contradiction.

 

Ok, I was just taking some issue with your phrase “the general public reaction”. I have a sense - no more than a gut feeling, not mathematically proven - that it is actually only quite a small proportion of “the general public” that are reacting like this, and that the media is actually misjudging things quite significantly.

Funnily enough though, I kind of agree with switching the time of next week’s fixtures. I would feel differently if there were fans who would be inconvenienced, but as it is, I can’t really see the harm in delaying by (say) 24 hours (or maybe less?).

 

It's an interesting one, my initial instinct is that I don't see any reason to do it, but at the same time I do understand the level of protocol in doing so given the direct clash. I do think that that a 24 hour delay would genuinely affect the way teams prepare, both for that round of fixtures and the one after, though, which are of course a midweek round, so that would be far too much for me. A time delay of half an hour or an hour is about all I could personally countenance.

 

What on earth is there to be “more nervous than ever” about? The two scenarios aren’t remotely comparable.

For starters we can rule out Swansea (as in fairness most have done it seems) as even if they win their game in hand (at Sheff Wed, so not a given) they’ll be still be seven points behind us and we play them at home, where we have been excellent. So that just leaves Brentford, who will still be six points behind us if they win their game in hand.

Conversely, going into the West Ham game we had not one but two teams breathing down our necks, both of them just three points behind us following Villa’s win against Palace and unexpected point at Everton, and Bournemouth’s unexpected big win against Leicester and their unexpectedly narrow defeat at Man City. Under those circumstances it’s not surprising our team crapped themselves, over the season they’d shown they didn’t have much bottle and had banked on teams better than Villa and Muff to do them a favour. Ultimately though, they only had themselves to blame, because they still only needed a point at West Ham or Arsenal, teams we’d got good results against in recent seasons (and this was the worst Arsenal side for decades), and a narrower defeat against Man City, which was not beyond them but they failed miserably.

OK, the fact that Brentford won by so much is surprising, but did anyone really expect them to keep dropping points? And a Preston side who have been poor at home and have nothing to play for are ideal opponents for a promotion-chasing side to end a winless run.

This situation is worlds apart from the one you refer to of last season, in terms of the mentality of the players, the points gap, the level of pressure and the difficulty of the teams we have left.

 

I don't think I know a single person that would watch the funeral.

 

Gonna be gutting when we find out Sarr and Hughes are massive royalists and refuse to play against the scum so they can watch it.

 

(a) We are 7th in the away table with the best defence and without checking I’m guessing no team has picked up more away points than us since January, with the exception of Norwich.

(b) Two points maybe if they do a good job stifling us and winding us up, but how is it realistic to think we could drop all three? We’re talking about one of the lowest scorers against the division’s best defence with no fans to spur them on. What are they going to do to beat us, score a lucky early goal with a deflected free kick and somehow hold out against a side with the threat, pace and movement of Sarr, Sema, Pedro, Kiko, Hughes and Chalobah?

 

We definitely can't be complacent against the scum, they are more than holding their own in this division and the manager will have them fired up after the defeat earlier in the season.

 

Just my own little pessimistic feelings fella.

Long way to go yet before I'll personally feel comfortable.

 

Not sure why they have to pick the same time for the funeral as that the country has allocated for football ,the national pastime .

Still, I’d be more p1ssed off if I had to contribute to the cost of the funeral as well.

What’s that I do ? Oh well.

 

Yes it's really deceptive and knowingly so. The number of times u see a heading like Man City 2-1 Barcelona and u think 'whaaaaat, I didnt know Man City played Barca last night' as a football fan u react mentally and emotionally to something like that (albeit on a low level) and then u realise you've been cheated by the beeb and your reflex response was based on information being presented in a misleading way. It sucks. I hope one day women's football (which at some point in the future may well b known as XX chromosome football) becomes as big as male football but tricking people into clicking on articles like Man city 2-1 Barcelona doesnt help the sport at all.