Watford Fc 3-2 Coventry City Fc - 07/11/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by domthehornet, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Guess it’s a case of perception. I watched the replay carefully and it looks to me like he purposely puts that much power into it whilst giving it a proper run up. Looked like a very clever bit of play to me but I do understand it’s a tough call!
     
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  2. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Sema and Sarr have a first touch which is a cut above the Championship
     
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  3. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    I agree - he knows exactly what he’s doing. It’s a great goal.
     
  4. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Was a bit of a strange set up today as well - was neither 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.

    It was more of the latter - but with Cleverley playing the LH striker role but also dropping deeper which Sarr wasn’t expected to do on the other side.

    We looked better in terms of attacking shape today I think and forced many corners, and also Sema was a bigger factor in the final third because of it. But Cleverley doesn’t suit the role he was asked to. I think Ivic is going to have to drop a player he doesn’t want to at some stage if he wants to keep that shape.
     
  5. Personally I think an attacking mid role has always been Cleverley's best position
     
  6. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    How did Coventry not win?
    We are awful at the back.
    3 points though.
     
  7. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    IMO Ivic likes to mix things up a bit so not to be predictable.
    Sema has been wing back and attacking mid
    Different players have occupied the no 10 spot etc
    We will attack down 1 flank in the first half then switch 2cnd half
     
  8. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    I guess you didn't find the posts I was referring to. Not to worry.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Just watched it again on Quest. He 100% means it - but I defended Foster on the shoutbox and said he naturally steps out with his back line as the ball is semi-cleared...but he doesn’t. Instead he makes an inexplicable move forward by a couple of yards as the player runs on to the header.

    Not a total error and doubt it’d be repeated. But he didn’t help himself for sure!
     
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  10. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    We're a quarter of the way through, I don't think that there are many clubs in this league who would be able to rotate and maintain a certain level like we can. The December fixture pile up looks horrible and I hope we just throw away the FA Cup3rd round match, we really do not need an additional distraction.
     
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  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    What posts were they?
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    But what will I do with my flag?
     
  13. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    Such a shame that Ferguson took all the joy out of his game. Wasted years having to pretend he was a ball winning midfielder
     
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  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    The bit that makes me smile are the people who say we had a great window who then go on to give laboured excuses for our lack of consistency in attack, our wobbly defence and our stubborn adherence to a turgid and constipated formation.
     
  15. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Wait, did he?
     
  16. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    The one thing that I do seriously appreciate about Ivic is that he calls it as we see it as well. He's not afraid to own his mistakes or let the squad hide behind typical clichés when they win poorly or give up results.
     
  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes bit harsh there I think.

    Yes - doesn’t make excuses say what he thinks/feels.
     
  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I can answer this one.

    No. He didn't.
     
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  19. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Fiendish
     
  20. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    They're awful at the back too.
     
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  21. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Nah this was far better than Wycombe, Cov had a few good chances that they should have scored even apart from their rather smash and grab goals in the second half, but we were generally on top and could have nabbed a few more ourselves. We were bossed by Wycombe, who not only missed some gilt-edged chances (with us creating very little), but they were so unlucky to have a goal ruled out at the end. I'd rather play 4-2-3-1 all things considered, but I think we've seen in the last few games that we can make something out of 3-5-2, though it very much depends on personnel (as JP gets little out joy out of playing with Sarr), and we could do with having a settled defence (within reason given the fixture pile-up)
     
  22. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    For what it's worth, I was banging the drum for Mason to play that Brighton game after Holebas got sent off in the cup...surely he couldn't have done any worse than Britos? :p
    Dan Phillips is very raw, but there might be a player there, who knows, if we blow this season and find ourselves stuck in this Godforsaken hellhole named the Championship, he might be pushing for a place in the team with Cassidy in the next few seasons
    Vlad clearly reads these forums then! :D
     
  23. Coventry won-
    BY A LOT.




    (I'm channeling Donald)
     
  24. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    They scored two LEGAL GOALS
     
  25. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If you only count their goals THEY WIN.
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I can’t believe after 64 mins they were so up, big wins all over the pitch! But then unexplained GOALS were dumped from nowhere! Time to prosecute. FRAUD!!!
     
  27. Harry's shin pads

    Harry's shin pads Academy Graduate

    Don’t worry Burnsy, I’m getting the lawyers on it. #MCGA
     
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  28. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    On the flip side we only have 3 of the current top 8 still to play in the 1st half of the season.
     
  29. BusheyOrn

    BusheyOrn Reservist

    From November to Christmas our fixture run looks tough. I think Ivic will rotate a lot and he will do well to keep us in the top 2
     
  30. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    You don’t start a season with 32 points from 13 games through pure luck when you have King, Henderson and Johnson in your team to score goals/create chances though. We won many games pretty convincingly as well so for the most part we weren’t nicking results.

    But that was also part of the problem in the long run, in that our squad was too reliant on a few players (one of them a short-term loanee) and we lacked the funds to augment it or even hold onto our better players to maintain our high position. Once the goals started drying up due to Aidy’s one-dimensional tactics and/or one of our strikers was sold (as happened with Hendo and King respectively, although the former still ended up as top scorer, which shows how poor the rest of the team was in the scoring department) it was clear that the team would fall out of the auto promotion picture (though amazingly we still had a chance to go top as late as the Barnsley home game, where instead we produced one of the worst Watford performances in modern times).

    We largely played well at the start, not always convincing at home, but we got results. But the West Brom footballing masterclass seemed to deflate the team’s confidence (it seemed to have the same effect on the team that Man Utd in the League Cup apparently had on us in 2000/01, and it was like the players felt it would be more of the same if we went back up), then it was a mixture of really good and (mostly at home) really bad until the Leicester home game, after which the bad became the norm.

    This season feels different because although we are playing worse than at the start of 2007/08, it feels like we can improve because we have more depth, more money and a better manager who’s willing to try different things, and we know clearly we can improve our away performances without being blinded by a few narrow wins, and again we have a manager who is keen to identify the root of the problem which bodes well.
     
  31. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    If our best players leave in Jan though...
     
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  32. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    999/1000 times the opponent wants to head the ball back into the gap between the defence and the keeper for an onrushing forward or similar via a flick or deflection . Foster was positioning himself to close that gap and imo he's in just about the right position. It was just a freaky header.

    I have seen Blissett score from a similar position in the 80's and seen Helguson nearly score from that area, but thats it.
     
  33. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    There is a lot more skill in players individually than we have had in this division before, by that I mean we don’t have any cloggers but every player has a higher skill level, it’s just a case of putting those skills into effect to make a team! We are in the transitional stage, the finished product will see some more convincing performances!
     
  34. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Either way I think the comparisons to our team now and that Boothroyd team and how it ended up are a bit silly. The only two things that are the same now as back then, is that we’re still called Watford and we’ve just been relegated. Everything else couldn’t be more different.
     
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  35. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Actually he did have a couple of dodgy games, but overall I would prefer him on the right and Kiko on the left in a back four.
     

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