TalkSport thread

It's handy to remember Carragher is an Evertonian so he was probably approaching it from more of a fan's perspective than a pundit.

 

It was completely tongue in cheek tbf

 

That certainly puts it into another perspective! I assumed he was a Liverpool fan .

I still think he went at Martinez a bit though, maybe he's part of the "Martinez Out" brigade(which seems quite popular in the national media, especially Jason Cundy, who still refuses to give him credit for winning the FA Cup).

Or maybe Carragher was being mocked by the likes of Merson etc. about not being able to beat us, and wanted an explanation.

I wonder if Ed will receive such a grilling when he next appears on MNF....

 

Let's be honest, 'The Woman Beater' has us down to finish in 20th place, so he's going to look like a complete tool (yes, even more so than usual) if he lavishes praise on 'little ol' Watford'.

Anyway, f**k him, he's a ****.

 

Can't believe some of the comments about our greatest ever player.

You're morons.

 

Do you ever listen to what he says these days? Great player, useless manager, thick pundit, apparently no appreciation of Watford FC, just a stepping stone to his only meaningful club.

 

There's hardly ever any stories in the press regarding Watford unless it's negative about 4 managers in a season blah blah blah...
It's the same with the frickin' bbc. I really do hope Watford can stay up and prove the doubters wrong!!!

 

It was a good result at Everton but it was only 1 point. We couldn't see the game out at 2-1. How much praise were you expecting. If it was 3 points we would've got more noticeable praise from the pundits who to be honest I don't rate anyway. I used to like Alan Hansen but no one left to like on the box for me. Can't stand Carragher and Redknapp to the point I don't watch them.

 

On h and j. Michael calvin making more positive comments about Watford, saying what chance homegrown kids have when we have a squad of 22 different nationalities. All our fault England r rubbish.

 

Gary Neville is the best pundit on television - he'd be the best ever if he changed that **** accent.

 

Stats can be twisted easily...


Everton made the 4th highest number of short passes in the league.

 

If you pass the ball 5 times between your centre backs and then hoof it long and aimlessly towards your striker because you can find a way through that's 5 short passes and 1 long one. Given we had 32% possession it's no wonder they did did well for short passes.

 

I'm not sure the point your making is - my point is that, as much as I love stats, look at the reverse before you make a conclusion.

Flores made Everton play long rather than Everton being a long ball team.

Everton, if they had their way, would play every passes on the ground.

 

Did anybody read the excellent piece by Jason Burt in the Telegraph's season preview on Saturday? Really recommended read. Painted a picture of us as a really forward-thinking club without any of the lazy and inaccurate cliches used by our media detractors. Lots of little nuggets of info I didn't know too, like the fact there are four restaurants where our players can eat for free anytime they like in an effort to help team bonding as well as making sure they are eating sensibly(the club then gets billed by the eateries).

On the Joka departure, they claim the difference in salary figures was 2 million demanded, 800,000 offered. They paint our Head Coach upheaval of last season as a positive rather than negative thing, because it proved our whole ethos of the team comes first was the right one.

A good read.

 

Durham had a phone in on the Everton 'crisis' this afternoon. A worthy topic I believe after only a point against the Golden Boys...

 

Never listened to Durham's show. Tempted to phone in and ask why he thinks it's acceptable to go around looking like a fuzzy ginger scrotum though.

 

Link for those who need it, assuming this is the one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-right-recipe-for-Premier-League-success.html

 

That's the one..thanks Jel..

I hope people will enjoy reading it.

 

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Agreed that was a good read. He must have a bit of a soft spot for us as he was one of three of the ten DT tipsters who didn't have us down for the drop, tipping Sunderland, Muff & Lesta instead.

It was all part of 16 page pull-out that had a section reviewing all Prem clubs and included tongue in cheek pie charts called 'What are they made of'. Ours was amusingly made up of 54% Manager's P45's, 23% Obscure Foreign Signings, 17% Season Long-Loans, 5% Heurelho Gomes Being Hilarious and 1% Lloyd Doyley.

 

I wonder what the 2 restaurants in St Albans are. I always caught Zola and Beppe eating in L'Italiana.

 

I guess the Watford restaurant is Zinco.

 

Jason Burt has replaced Henry Winter as their chief football writer...Winter has gone to the Times..he was on Sky on Sunday morning (Winter) and was also complimentary about us and about Flores.

 

Paul Robinson (the spud/weeds one) "Watford are the least well equipped of the three that came up to stay up".

 

Link? Intersting in reading that.

 

Ah, that Paul Robinson. The one who let his country down I believe.

 

[video=youtube;KEuyfJGg7AA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEuyfJGg7AA[/video]
Quality keeper

 

I was there that night :dismay:

 

He didn't let England down, he did his best. It's just that he wasn't well equipped to be an England goalkeeper.

 

I heard that, shame these so called pundits don't get asked to justify why they think that

Inexperienced manager in premier league...... Flores won the Europa league

Inexperienced premier league squad....... Norwich's squad went down with the same squad last time, Watford 9 international signings, Bournemouth..... mmm

Too many signings....... nothing said about the likes of Bournemouth or Stoke

 

Exactly all entitled to an opinion but some reasons would be interesting as to how he has arrived at that conclusion wouldn't go amiss.

 

Stan Collymore hosts a phone-in show which is unique in the sense that the opinions of the callers are of no interest to him. After ten seconds of every caller starting to express their opinion, usually about the match they've just been to, he interrupts them to drone on about his views.

606 may not be perfect, and Savage is often contra-suggestive just for the sake of being so, but at least you get the impression they give the callers a fair crack of the whip and listen to them. On Collymore's phone-ins, they seem an irrelevance.

 

That pretty much sums up TalkSport presenters in general, always interrupting pretty much anyone mid sentence. Johnny Vaughn is the worst closely followed by Collymore and Brazil. Strangely a previous bad offender, Adrian Durham, has improved hugely for this.

 

In fairness to Paul Robinson, that blunder wasn't really his fault. Just very unlucky when it bobbled right over his foot.

 

I didn't know that Johhny Vaughn works to Talk****e.
I guess I should have guess he'd end up there, it looks to be is level.