[video=youtube;HP7L8bw5QF4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4[/video] Make your own minds up.
We've already admitted that we couldn't defend it either as we haven't got any aircraft carriers anymore.
NSFW Spoiler [video=youtube;tX5ZRE26YWM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX5ZRE26YWM&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
It was overinflated and full of obsolete ships anyway. It has slimmed down and is undergoing modernization much like the Air Force and Army with new equipment and overhauls of ships although this is taking time as with the Kirov class battlecruisers and Sovremenny type destroyers for example. Nonetheless we did try and help the Shia in the area of Basra and Marsh Arabs for example and that has hardly stopped anti American and British sentiment there. There are very few people going about singing our praises. The situation in Syria is very complex as it was in Iraq and Afghanistan and here we go again blundering in without any idea of a possible outcome and if there will be a peace.
Not until we get the Queen Elizabeth class ships. Argentina does not have the military forces capable of taking the Falklands. We have a detachment of Marines, Typhoon squadron and SSN in the vicinity. One SSN could take out the entire surface fleet and one Daring could do the same to any incoming planes. Nonetheless in the future Argentina may well rearm. However it would be better if the bonehead politicians particularly Kirchner got around the table and sorted out an amicable agreement in terms of sharing resources in the area. Oil has sparked all this pandemonium and the possibility of it being discovered there and yet another relatively pristine environment damaged.
Funny how everyone overlooks how we got rid of a genocidal dictator in Iraq and focuses on the negatives.
A genocidal dictator who we funded and armed to conquer Iran (1980-1988) and who used chemical weapons during that war, not to mention the 100,000 plus Iraqis who have died as a direct result of the invasion in 2003.
I don't think it is ever possible to have a clear idea about outcome. I take your points on blundering though; and am concerned about hastily constructed "evidence". Also the feeling that " something must be done" is dangerous; I'm guilty if that too.
Indeed. We were wrong to fund him but right to oust him. Apparently the rate at which he was killing people overall more would've died if we left him in power.
Ha ha ha, who told you that? :sign12: [video=youtube;BOVaPb2nVys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVaPb2nVys&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
Sorry I have to post this, I'm in a very silly mood and this is making me laugh. [video=youtube;S4vFO8W18gM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S4vFO8W18gM[/video]
Another proxy war. However, the likelihood of the UK going into or near Syria is relatively minute. Unlike Libya, Afghanistan and even Iraq, the Syrians are actually reasonably equipped. Any involvement would be stand off missiles which I don't think will solve anything really. Oddly, it was Iran that (correctly) made the point that intervention would have negative consequences on the region, not just Syria Also, I don't accept that anyone can seriously suggests that our country, as a permanent member of the UN security council, should just not get involved in any way as it's not our problem...
This morning, I got off the train at London Bridge station and between the overground train station and the underground station were two armed policemen with H&K in hand in the middle of rush hour. A timely reminder of the security that we rely on for the number of enemies that threaten our way of life but also serves a purpose to remind us of the acts of terrorism that's gone before it. Can we afford to stretch that security again? If we strike in Syria with missiles, are we just opening ourselves up further with risks of attacks?
There were no security issues in the UK pre-2003 and any attacks since were performed by homegrown terrorists incensed by what they perceived to be an illegal war on Islam where hundreds of thousands of innocent people died in the crossfire as the West war-profitted at their expense.
So what? The security threat is clear and present now. Throwing a few missiles against a Syrian government that is strongly linked with Iran would have no effect at all to our own security?? Or is that the threat that the Syrians want you to believe? However regardless if we do or don't, its already evident that the security presence is gaining more visibility on Londons gateway public transport systems. I don't fancy it getting more tense, otherwise i think i would seriously reconsider my employment within the capital.
Ha ha ha! :sign12: So your point is that London feels more tense because our Government has put more heavily armed police at transport hubs and you feel more paranoid and as a result we should go to war with Syria on their say so?
Post-Good Friday Agreement and the Real IRA etc didn't kick off again until they felt left out post-7/7/2005 besides that's over the water.
Eh? They fired an RPG at MI6 HQ in 2000 and set off two car bombs in London in 2001! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_BBC_bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_August_2001_Ealing_bombing Hardly indicative of there being no security issues pre-2003.
Trifles, that was nothing. There were no fatalities and that was the Real IRA as opposed to the Provisional IRA.
Well someone has swallowed all the governess bull**** and propaganda on "terror" and how there are so many bogeymen we should give up liberties and submit to a police state, for our safety of course
Not again. A muddled conflict in which we, the electorate to whom Parliament should be responsible; are not really clear as to the identities of those pulling the strings. Ideally, it should be a country like Turkey taking the lead, but Erdogan is a plonker. To quote from In The Loop "show me the ****ing evidence"
Would things have got this far if the UN hadn't been screwed over on every policy decision by Russia and China veto's?
All I'm pointing out is that the police are already showing arms. I'm not swallowing anything and neither do I buy into it.
My way of life has already been purged by a lack of well paid jobs which require minimal effort and around 10 hours per week of graft from home. **** you Syria!
