Pre-season 2021/22

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by RS2, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Anyone know how long Quina is out for ?

    I wonder if he can finally prove his quality after a mildy sucessive La Liga loan spell.
     
  2. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    I will never, ever, forgive Leicester City for filling fans of so many clubs round the world with false hope that their team will one day achieve something.
     
  3. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Hey don’t be down, you might get to another cup final thirty years from now. That’s great going for a club like Watford.
     
  4. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Some noise about us apparently playing Sheff Utd to replace the Barnsley game
     
  5. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Got round to watching the Arsenal game, a few thoughts:
    We were basically 1-1 until the kids came on, and the penalty which was just never a penalty, which isn't too bad.

    The biggest concern was that we generally looked too ponderous with our passing and lacking in ideas or desire to get the ball forward. Too often we just took the safe option backwards. Playing this way goals will remain hard to come by.

    Zinckernagel was crap again. I wondered if preseason would help but he still looks off the pace relative to most around him and gets dispossessed far too easily. He does popup with the odd key moment, but I'm not sure it's enough to compensate for how much of a liability he is the rest of the time.

    I remain unconvinced by Louza. At least he was a bit more creative with his passing than others, but he was terrible defensively, constantly chasing shadows. He might eventually be alright as the more advanced midfielder, but him starting early on as one of the two deep-lying midfielders would be asking for trouble in the PL.

    I also still think we'll have issues if we need Ngakia to make regular starts, lost the ball for the goal, and Nketia had him on toast.

    King didn't seem to offer much tbh. Sure he'd prob do more than Trondre, but it's a low bar.

    Fletcher looked rapid and honestly I thought he seemed far more of a goal threat than King. I'm not convinced either will get enough goals, but Fletcher got some earlier in preseason and came close today - some of you could be eating your words if he continues to look our best CF option.

    Dennis looks a menace, as many have already pointed out. His decision making in the final third could improve but there are still promising signs and he seems more of a threat than Sema. I'm also curious how he'd do at CF, but between him and Cucho LW is prob alright.

    Etebo should do well for us - Doucoure who?

    With Yokuslu hopefully joining to partner Etebo, I think our remaining priorities should be upgrades at #10 and CB. Striker might also still be needed if we can get a clear upgrade.

    We'll also need to hope Kiko is back fit asap.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2021
  6. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Agree r.e. Louza and Zinckernagel. Both are too easy to get past, but we need at least one for their creativity. Louza was the better of the two yesterday in that regard. Assuming we stick with the 4-3-3, we should play Etebo, Yokuslu (assuming we sign him) and Louza. Three different players there - Yokuslu the sitter, Etebo more box-to-box, and Louza the creative spark.
     
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  7. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Perhaps if we play both Etebo and Yokuslu we might be able to play someone more offensive in the #10 role. Cucho ended up there against Stevenage and WBA and Pedro could also play there, both having good defensive work rate.
     
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  8. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Yes that could work (with Cucho, not sure about JP starting).

    I'd only consider it at home against teams we'll be looking to beat though.
     
  9. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Just Norwich then.
     
  10. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Wycombe away in the cup.
     
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  11. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Forget that, Wycombe have signed Sam Vokes he always scores against us!
     
  12. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Pre-season games are usually a false perspective to what happens when the proper season starts. So I am happy to wait before I decide how players are doing.
     
  13. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Man U have called off their friendly with Preston on Saturday due to a number covid cases. Bit of a trek but maybe Preston would welcome an alternative opponent?
     
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  14. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Nice tweet from Cucho after the WBA game 'Vicarage Road was incredible today. Thanks to the fans for the support after such a long time without being able to enjoy (being with) them'
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  15. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    So that’s Preston and Sheff Utd without a fixture now on Saturday. Hopefully we’ve been on the blower and arranged a game with one of them. Knowing our luck, they will play each other instead.
     
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  16. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    This guy is going to be fun to watch this season.
     
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  17. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    This guy has got all the makings of a future club legend .
     
  18. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Sold by the end of August.
     
  19. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    August 22....to Everton for 50 mill where his form falls of a cliff.
     
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  20. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Seems a nice lad. He also responded to a tweet by one or fans wondering whether he was going to get Cucho or Hernandez on the back of his shirt.

    Will make it a bit less painful when he moves to Cadiz on deadline day.
     
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  21. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Are we playing Dover next Friday?
     
  22. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Burnley’s game with Forest called off tomorrow due to Forest players getting Covid.
     
  23. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    A Watford XI isn't it? So basically the U23s as Palace is the day after.
     
  24. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Surely all players must be double vaccinated by now …. Or are players getting it despite vaccinations…..or is just pingdemic enforced isolation ?
     
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  25. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Maybe our transfer business has been so slow because we’re only signing players who are fully vaccinated.

    Once the other clubs start losing players to COVID, we’ll romp to safety.
     
  26. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    You can still carry and be affected by the virus despite being vaccinated. Officials have been very clear about this from when the first experimental vaccines were started. As far as I know they are still experimental. We are guinea pigs.
     
  27. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

    They’re no more experimental than any other. You can carry it when vaccinated - your immune system won’t spring into action until you have caught it. The question is the number of vaccinated whose systems sniff the virus out before it hits vital load critical for transmission. Vaccines are not completely effective, as pointed out, because individuals’ immune response vary from person to person. Therefore a proportion of the vaccinated population can pass it on and a (smaller) proportion can still be affected by the virus, albeit with lesser effect than if they were unvaccinated.
     
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  28. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

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  29. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Assuming when he writes inter-club friendly, he means internal. So based on that assumption we’re playing the u23’s or the first team 11 are playing the other first team 11.
     
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  30. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Yeah you are probably right. We have about 3 squads worth of players so it probably makes sense.

    Fully expecting our resident spelling Nazi to write to groundskeeper now and correct his message.
     
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  31. The only inter I know is Milan. Good of them to fly over for a kick about.
     
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  32. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Inter de Porto Alegre in shambles
     
  33. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    There's no better preparation for the season than playing your teammates in a training ground kickabout.
     
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  34. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Fair points ;). It's annoying as this is only 6 miles down the road from me on the same day I'm going to Leavesden.
     
  35. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

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