[SIGNED perm] Mario Gaspar

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Jul 22, 2022.

  1. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    By us or Villarreal?
     
  2. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Why would Villarreal release him then offer him a contract?
     
  3. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Players can be out of contract at a club and can start looking at other options. In the meantime the original club may offer another deal
     
  4. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Us.

    No idea what stage it’s at. The lad could sign tomorrow for example - or decide he doesn’t want to move to the Championship at 31 for likely a short term deal (?!) when I’m sure a mid-table/lower end La Liga side would probably give him just as good a deal.
     
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  5. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    His contract hasn't ended, they've released him.
     
  6. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Which normally means his contract ended unless they paid him off
     
  7. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Mutual agreement it sounds like. He still had a year left on his deal.
     
  8. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Well if he does sign, it's again going against what Edward's said this week.
     
  9. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Ahh ok, fair enough
     
  10. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Yeah because Cassetti was awful in that role for Watford .
     
  11. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    I have never heard of him.
     
  12. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I’m sure he’d say the same about you.
     
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  13. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    I think it’s a certainty.
     
  14. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Zola's formation may have been similar to Edwards but the style of play certainly isn't

    The demands on an Edwards RWB are going to be much greater in terms of yards covered and work without the ball
     
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  15. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    How can you even compare the two styles until you've seen them?
     
  16. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    He is a real person though. I checked.

    It’s not some made up comedy name invented by the sort of idiot on a football forum who thinks that sort of thing is amusing.
     
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  17. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Unless you think Edwards is suddenly going to throw his system out of the window then anyone who has watched Watford under Zola and FGR under Edwards has seen both styles

    Both play a similar formation but Zola’s style was all about possession and short passes, lots of progression through the middle via Abdi, Battochio, Chalobah etc. Edwards is much more direct via the flanks, with wingbacks bombing up and down (Wilson, Cadden) and crosses into the box from wide looking for a target man (Matt)
     
  18. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Seems that many people are against this potential (and probably quite unlikely) Transfer because he’s not homegrown.

    May I suggest that’s not the best way of looking at it? I believe we should judge the player first rather than his homegrown status or lack of it. What Rob said was he didn’t want to be lumbered with non homegrown players that he was unable to pick. If Gaspar signed I’m sure he’d be a regular starter and therefore not an issue. The issue would be the fringe players who can’t make match day squads because of the rule of 11.

    Gaspar would bring us huge experience and leadership skills, something badly lacking this past year. From what I’ve read, even at 30 he’s still very dynamic, gets forward lots and pops up with goals too. (I appreciate he missed the second half of last season injured so we’d need to do due diligence first to check he’s fully recovered).

    I’m all for signing young hungry British players too but not just for the sake of it. Wilson sounded wonderful on paper but we are talking here about the captain of a Champions League semi final team last season, 500 games in the Spanish top flight and a full international too. In my opinion this could be an inspired signing.

    Maybe I’m naive but I don’t accept the narrative of ‘going against Rob’. I don’t know of course but I doubt he’d be against signing such a quality player with so much experience.
     
  19. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Why would a Watford fan watch a FGR match?
     
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  20. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Not seen FGR so can't comment but I do remember Anya bombing up and down the wing
     
  21. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    They had a televised game against Doyley’s St Albans in the cup last season

    Also went back and looked at a lot of their match highlights from last season once Edwards got the job
     
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  22. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    If Sarr stays, he won't throw his system out off the window - but he sure will have to adapt it.
     
  23. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    If Sarr stays I’d guess he’ll adapt it to the 343 we saw against Wycombe - I.e. Sacrifice a strike partnership with a number 10 behind them for a central striker flanked by two wide forwards
     
  24. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Mmm, like Cucho.

    ;)
     
  25. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Followed this blokes career for a while now and watch about 20 games of his last season, he's certainly someone who could fit into Edwards formation and philosophy based on the 0 minutes of pre-season I've seen, he also has an impressive xTa of 2.32 per 90 minutes which is hugely important but some of you plebs might not have a high enough brain function to comprehend such a statistic.
     
  26. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    You don’t know exactly what Edwards style of play until it manifests nor do you know what the stamina qualities of Gaspar . A player who has played 400 games at the top level is likely to have the physicality to deal with a level that is a substantial drop down .

    But either way it’s unlikely to happen because he is probably to good for Watford but if he does come he will certainly be a step up from Kiko who himself would have been amongst the best Players in the division in his position .
     
  27. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

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  28. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Last stop before retiring
    Mario Gas-par
    Mario Gas-par
     
  29. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Gaspar will love it at Watford
     
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  31. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Interesting. Experience wise miles ahead of anyone we have. Doesn't have any pace, though.
     
  32. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  33. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Personally I think the only negative to this deal is that it still doesn’t really show us the club are telling the truth regarding this rule-of-11 stuff. Would have thought this was perfect opportunity to move on an overseas player and replace with HG to get numbers down.

    Aside from that, I’m perfectly happy with the deal. Very unlikely to swap like-for-like in these scenarios so I suspect we are happy to forego the positives of Kiko’s attacking game in order to get the positives (leadership, top level experience, versatility) that come with Gaspar. May well be that we think Sarr will stay so the need for Kiko bombing forward is lessened dramatically.

    I have strong doubts whether Ngakia will ever be good enough - but if the club still have faith that he will be, this can only be good for him too. A seasoned top level player like Gaspar will provide valuable learning for Ngakia as a teammate.
     
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  34. ThePaperBoy

    ThePaperBoy No Longer Delivering

    It could be Samir is off to Seria A, just a rumour at the moment, and Gasper slots in at right centre-back. A less demanding role physically and easier to lead from the back rather than gasping for air after bombing up and down the right flank! That still leaves room for someone like Cyrus Christie coming in to replace Kiko.
     
  35. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Let’s hope not.
     
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