Well it must be because if he means last years winner of the Championship they got 102pts. Can't see 4th needing quite that many points somehow. It's a bizarre claim.
interesting that we've now accumulated more points this season (at game 34) that Burnley & Derby had by the end of the whole season. Hence my earlier comments that historic points data is only as relevant as the competition at that moment in time. edited to add, i mean 12/13
What, the teams that finished 10th and 11th? Seriously, what the **** are you on about? After 34 games that season we had more points than those two got and a game later so did Palace in 4th. What you wrote earlier is demented, stop trying to rationalise it. The only difference between the table at 34 games that season and this is that the top team had 5 more points and the 6th team had 5 less - it's a little bit more congested, that's all.
Maybe the point I was making is that this is a high points season for the top teams and that Burnley & Derby (2 decent sides) didn't have a particularly good season in 12/13 if we've already surpassed their total points by game 34. Likewise, I could have made the point that that the bottom 2 clubs of the league were in the PL more recently than WFC. I go back to, points taken in isolation, as a raw statistic, are meaningless.
Yeah it does look like a season where teams will need to get points towards the top end of the scale to finish in a certain position. But the way you work out that scale is by looking at the previous seasons which is what GoldenHorn did. Probability says if we get to 87 points we'll almost certainly end up 2nd. The Burnley/Derby thing is unintelligible I'm afraid. They clearly weren't decent sides that year if they came 10th and 11th. It's making my head hurt trying to work out where they even come into it.
85 points last season wasn't enough for Derby to go up. This season that could be enough points to be champions. It's a crazy, tight league and actually a really exciting one. Imagine if we reached the final weekend with none of the promotion places settled and four to five teams in the mix! No doubt it will all change again on Tuesday night but right now I reckon it might be a three way battle for the top two between Derby, Norwich and us. Still worth remembering there is still a quarter of the season left. The real key could be winning the last four or so matches of the season. That'd be the perfect time for such a run. Norwich are having one now..six on the bounce..but can they sustain that sort of form to the end?
Can't make my mind up on Derby: they have some very good players... but they have some mediocre ones as well (no one is going to tell me Forsyth was a great full back)... Mclaren is a very good coach... but the squad looks a little bare of quality now they have a couple of injuries...
Since Bassong went back Norwich have won 8 from 10... They mugged us right off... Get him fit and then steal our position.
To be fair if their last manager had lasted in January he'd be our player right now. It was a personal falling out that saw him here in the first place.
I can't work why it seems people are writing off Middlesbrough when saying its between us Norwich and derby. This thing is going to the wire. You just can't 2nd guess what's going to happen if you look at brentfords run its by far the easiest who knows they could come strong still.
It's gonna be exciting, but I think I'd rather be a neutral. Every game is massive and if we plan to continue with last minute winners and comebacks, my heart won't last.
Yes you're right Loyal..silly to write off anybody. My own feeling is Boro don't have enough firepower but I guess plenty of 1-0 wins would do the trick for them! Norwich look a very decent side with plenty of their PL players still in it. I believe the experience of last season will help Derby this time and Bent and Ince looked decent deadline day acquisitions. With us it's just a question of trying to avoid that frustrating defeat that seems to come along every three or four matches. But we also have a good knack of winning matches other sides might only draw and of course we score lots of goals. Wolves will still fancy their chances of sneaking into the play offs. As you say, Brentford can still be confident too. So much to play for for everybody! Exciting times lie ahead. My personal prediction as I said was us Derby norwich fighting it out for the top three but you're right that nobody can or should be written off. Remember how badly Palace finished the season two years ago? I'm not sure they won any if their last seven or eight matches did they?
We are one bad result away from dropping down to 6th and then fighting to stay in the play offs. We are also one good result away from going top. I'm not sure how much more I can take. I we don't mate the autos. I hope Norwich and Derby do. For the simple reason our record against them are shi*e
I think we have as good a chance as anybody of top two. If we end up in the play offs, then I'm not afraid of anybody. We have firepower and it now seems a great fighting spirit too. I believe some sides would have settled for a creditable 2-2 draw at Leeds having been behind but there was no way we'd have done so. I appreciate we haven't scored many goals against our rivals but some of those matches were before Ighalo started his amazing run, while there were poor ref decisions that counted against us in a few others. If it's our year so be it. Bring it on. And if it's not, I don't think this is a 'promotion or bust' season. There's plenty of good about the club right now and we have the potential to be even better next time out. All in all, it's an exciting place to be right now
Interesting para from a Leeds write up: 'Brighton did things differently, and then Watford perfected the technique; rather than let the Leeds centre backs stay deep and clear everything that came their way, they drew them out to near the halfway line and then plunged through balls into the gaps between Bamba and Cooper who, once they’re looking at the back of a forward’s head, are beaten. It’s Silvestri or bust from that point onward, and he can’t keep a clean sheet on his own every time.' Suggests that we got it spot on tactically. Leeds remind me of us a couple of years ago, a decent hard working side filled with academy players with a inexperienced upcoming manager. They won't go down but they won't go above 12th any time soon you'd imagine.
I just watched the extended highlights on hornets player, we actually played very well and bar a couple of chances leeds missed looked quite solid. Quite clearly the better team on the day.
Redfearn interview. Talks well of us and our Diamond shape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz76J-Bfrm4#t=348
