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Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by SkylaRose, Mar 3, 2024.

  1. Johnny Todd Sings

    Johnny Todd Sings First Year Pro

    I keep away from this forum when we lose. I only looked today because of VI's sacking.
  2. Dorset-Orn

    Dorset-Orn First Year Pro

    Luckily I'm of an age and attitude where I can't be bothered to take offence at somebody's leary responses, cutting me down to size on a forum is infantile.

    Totally agree with Skyla's comments, however I'm not totally in agreement that "debating a point" is always a great idea. If I make a point on here I am fine with others saying that they disagree nd putting their own views over - however that's where it should end... Different views stated and differences accepted, full stop.
    Following up with harsh personal criticism, name calling etc should not be considered reasonable.
    We make our point, others will agree, partly agree, or have a different angle, but it should not matter.
    Tbh some of the recent name calling has been ridiculous and I just ignored the forum for a week. I actually thought some Ruski trolls might have signed on.....
  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    There’s a difference between “debate” and “name calling”. Debate is fine. If you express an opinion it should be absolutely fine for someone to not just express an alternative view but also state why they think your view is wrong. It’s the 5th, 6th, 7th repetition of the same point and the insults that need to be eliminated. The last thing we all want is a sterile forum.
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  4. Nuandy

    Nuandy Academy Graduate

    well said
  5. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Overall a great post.

    Not sure we need to show another view is 'wrong' though.

    Unless it's about facts, they're just opinions, trying to show yours is right and others are wrong isn't the aim to me.

    No one needs to 'win' a point of debate on a forum if we disagree. I feel that's where we sometimes wander off track here.

    (Feel free to disagree with me :))
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  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    **** off you **** :).
    By definition, if you're expressing an alternative POV you're going to want to explain why your view is different from another poster. It doesn't need to decend into repeatedly stating the same point or personal insults esp given most posters won't change their own views. But for example if someone says that Chak is great and should start each week, there's no problem with another poster saying they disagree because he is great on the ball but has no end product. First poster says maybe but there's no quality or movement ahead of don't want to stop that sort of discussion, just need to quickly get to a point where both agree to disagree having backed up their own views.
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  7. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    You'll need to wear the virtual equivalent of a child's name badge then!
  8. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Well absolutely.

    But not the case that one view on Chak is wrong, and one is right.

    I'm all for the debate.

    As I said, your post was good, I just don't feel the need to be 'right'. And occasionally I do change my views, be a bit strange to always stick with your first thought.
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    With respect, if one poster is saying he should play each week because xxxx and another is saying he shouldn't because yyyyy then by definition poster 2 is saying that poster one's opinion is wrong in his humble opinion. Not that he's wrong to hold an alternative view but that he feels the view is wrong. Anyway, lets agree to disagree and move on ;)
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  10. Dorset-Orn

    Dorset-Orn First Year Pro

    I Agree, you actually just said it far better than I did.
    Having said that I now hate you and defy your ability to defend yourself, ever.!
    Ooh I think I'm getting the hang of it now...
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  11. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    Hold on, Sorry but you and HB1 have been the most vocal forum members on here. How many members have you both slagged off in the past?
    Pot calling the kettle black.
    For me, l don't care one jot how any member replies to a comment l make. Their replies mean nothing to me, it will not affect my life and no one at Watford FC cares.
    Come on, before all this Woke, Well-being, Tokenism, compulsory LGBTQ+ nonsense, we all just manned up and took it with a pinch of salt and got on with life.
    We all just need to grow a pair, lesbians included..
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2024
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  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Not that many who didn’t deserve it. Sadly, you always have. But you are mistaken…

    There are very, very few posters I often ‘slag’ off. I often disagree with Rousy. I used to disagree with WatfordTalk. But we largely remained civil and could chat someone where else minutes later quite amicably. That’s how a forum should be. You should be able to park your thoughts on a subject and move on to another without taking your thoughts with you. Sadly, some (you) display your nonsense everywhere and it gets torn down. I get it, ‘you don’t care’ - but still, an explanation is worthwhile for you, although I know you know this. I’ve agreed with you on matters before and said as much - although it’s rare!

    But don’t come on here painting me to be some ultra-divisive character when all the evidence suggest otherwise, and you can easily be disproven. Your nonsense posts with zero evidence to back them up causes far more consternation than what I post!

    Bonus points for adding ‘woke, LGBT…everything else I’m angry about blah blah blah in your reply though.
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2024
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  13. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Uncle Ron?
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  14. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    Some fair points and noted.
    I have been right more times than wrong. I am no different than Fabrizio Romano, a journalist who just carpet bombs rumours.
    I feel sure that you don't buy the debt free comments. It is alledged that we have frightened off two investment parties due the high debts and Pozzo Family profit request on their investment.
    I said ismael would be sacked from the day ge was appointed. It was an appointment of desperation by Gino. Chakvetadze was not €2.5m , wait and see.
    My Premier league executive friend is coming over next Sunday. I know that they were contacted regarding Scott Parker by Watford FC , but not as an interim appointment.
    No idea what was said, but l have been told in the past of comments Parker made within that club. One comment he and his coaching staff made was the Bournemouth was a dump of a Town. What he would make of Whippendell Road is beyond me .
    A few drinks next week may loosen their tongue more
    We are both fans and we have disagreements
    Ultimately my concerns are that Watford will sink in to the abyss next season and beyond under the Pozzo family ownership.
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  15. reids

    reids First Team

    Can I have the lottery numbers for next week?
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  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Don't you mean last week?
  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I don't see how that would be relevant - he's from London and presumably still lives in the vicinity; he wouldn't have to move anywhere were he to become manager of Watford.
  18. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    When a previously harmless troll lets the mask slip.
  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Well, this thread is going well. Mission accomplished. :)
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  20. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Damn I haven't seen that description of Whippendell Road since the 80s.

    Dreadful stuff, that. Shameful.
  21. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    The thread has now been tidied up.

    Just to reiterate, we at WFCForums do not tolerate any form of racism or hateful language.

    Anyone who speaks as such, will be banned.
  22. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    What? There were some decent posts worth reading and you removed them? I'll have to go back to the bargain hunt thread then.
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  23. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Probably worth just locking the thread now?

    Think it was worth keeping it open so everyone could air their views. But not sure there’s more to add?
  24. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Definitely where the real action is!
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  25. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I tolerate a lot of things in life but I cannot abide people talking about Bournemouth.
  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I humbly apologise. Won't do it again.
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  27. lendal

    lendal Reservist

    Loved them last night…
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  28. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I like Bournemouth
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  29. Cassetti's Beard.

    Cassetti's Beard. Academy Graduate

    Another one bites the dust!

    Big loss to Birmingham and hopefully we'll see a few more leave/banned.
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  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    What happened 2 b kind xx
  31. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    well said’ ???
    This is typical of the kind of post on this forum that really p*sses me off and can ruin my day.

    Comments like ‘well said’ can lead to all sorts of unnecessary arguments and reams of heated debate and name calling and even personal insults and hate speech.

    Is ‘well said’ a reference to the overall content of the Skyla’s OP, or a reference to the immediate previous post, or the one before that or the one previous to that???
    Noone knows?

    And is ‘well said’ a reference to a particular comment or arguement or train of thought in any of those posts that I may or may not take exception to?
    Noone knows?

    Or is ‘well said’ an all encompassing response to the whole post, which may itself have differing slants on a theme?
    Who knows?

    How the £uck can I agree or disagree with your ‘well thought out argument - ‘well said’ - lol’ when I haven’t got a clue as to what or who you are referring to?!?

    My basic human right of wanting to be offended by some random comment has been severely compromised by your ‘well said’ post.

    Why can’t the great unwashed* out there make it clearer what the f”uck they are referring to or talking about and who or what it is they are agreeing or disagreeing with or being offended by with the posting of such potentially deeply offensive comments?

    well said’ ?? - pah

    Makes my blood boil. :mad:

    * nothing personal to you Nuandy :) xxx

  32. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    "Well said" if meant as a compliment is also ableist - why can't you praise someone with the phrase "unwell said"?! Disgraceful.
  33. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Well said.

    We need a "well said" button.
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  34. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    And without getting into the offence is could case to mute people.
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"


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