I don’t see an issue with that. If you go through the effort of getting a green card because you worked in the US, why would you go through the effort of giving it back? Especially given we’ve seen with Truss that political careers can unravel rather quickly.
A real victory for democracy. Reduced from the will of the entire population, to the will of Conservative members, to the will of just over 100 people. Welcome back Rishi. I'd recommend not to open with the Tunbridge Wells speech.
I do, as to get a Green Card you have to pledge an allegiance to the US. Hardly a patriotic thing to do for a PM of another country. Exactly what you would expect from slippery Sunak.
Let's say no more about 'eat out to help out', the squillions paid to people to stay in and sit on their ar5e5 or the trillions spaffed on keeping non-existent companies going through the bonkers lockdown etc etc and all get behind Rishi. He's an economic genius you know
Election by Tory MPs is still far more representative than those willing to pay for Tory membership, but the point still stands.
Yes, but at least Mr Corbyn wasn’t allowed to just give it away to poor people. Imagine the mess we’d have been in then!
If Sunak hasn't fired or demoted the following in the next 48 hours, we will know that the cult lives on...... Cleverley Shapps Coffey Rees-Mogg Lewis Zahawi
Or if he has found a place for Braverman, Truss or Kwarteng and in addition to your list continues to find one for Badenoch, Buckland, Trevelyan and Malthouse. It cannot be JRM or Braverman under any circumstances. That would be a sure signal of the same old shyte.
I have assumed that the careers of Braverman, Kwarteng and Truss have all peaked. I wouldn't disagree with the others you have named, especially Badenoch (dangerous) and Trevelyan (useless).
Well, clearly the career of Truss has peaked... But it wouldn't wholly surprise me if she got some job, in a gesture of 'no hard feelings'/unity.
We need a vote independent movement in this country. It is the only possible way to change things in a pleasant manner.
Reports of significant numbers of Tory members taking the Trexit after Sunak won without a choice being put to the members. Lots of it on Twitter, with the wordle picking out ‘snake’, ‘WEF’ and ‘Globalist’. This one provides the form to do it. Here’s another couple, hinting that it’s all a bit sinister. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/conservatives-quit-after-rishi-sunak-25346841
What a dodgy woman. She's a "retired nurse" apparently and aged 60. How can she be retired when she's 60? Her Tory party she's always voted for increased women's retirement age to 67. She ought to still be working rather than lazing about sponging off tax payers, like me, who are older than her and still between the traces. Secondly, what sort of nurse, who are supposed to care about people, would religiously vote Tory? Imagine being looked after by a cruel and heartless nurse like that! Imagine being a brown person looked after by her!
We need a vote independent movement in this country. It is the only possible way to change things in a pleasant manner.
A strong independent movement could be a benefit but there's a risk that it gets bogged down. There does need to be someone calling the shots, but we need far, far better checks and balances. What we need to accept is that in order for democracy to work we should embrace the idea that coalitions are not necessarily a failure of the system. There are varied viewpoints in the country and, actually, the best way forward is usually a compromise that protects the weakest and curtails the excesses of the powerful. Unfortunately, we're sold the lie that strong, decisive leadership requires making decisions that annoy or marginalise a large number of people on the 'losing' side. It's all a consequence of our infantile system, exacerbated by Brexit. Braying, raaagh-raaaghing morons in the House, banging on tables to show assent, 'you lost, get over it' nonsense that serves no one. We'll be sold the usual Leftie, SNP, Green coalition of chaos boogeyman yet again and people will fall for it. The emptiness of our democracy is being laid extremely bare at the moment. The Tories are against a general election because they know they will lose. That's not democracy. That's not allowing for the will of the people. Both of those ideas have been rammed down everyone's throats since the Brexit result but they don't seem to like the idea of democracy if they're not on the winning side. The Government has conceded the right to rule now. Their 2019 mandate means nothing. All the folks who said: "Yeah, but how do you get rid of Van der Leyen..." really ought to be having a long hard look at themselves and reflect on just how easily democracy can be eroded because it's happened in front of their noses.
I would suggest that a good way to start would be a complete overhaul and rethink of uk democracy. 1. Do away with the house of Lords 2. Do away with antiquated parliamentary procedures which belong to a couple of centuries ago 3. Candidates elected to stand for Parliament locally - through primary ballot of residents or party members? - Not parachuted in by party leadership. 4. Proportional representation so votes aren't wasting their vote 5. Right to recall for non-performance or attendance
In my opinion, coalitions are fine but not if you only really have a 2 party system. With parties fundementally opposed to each other's ideas, you end up with a paralysed system, not able to pass anything. Give the current crop of morons in Westminster that might not actually be a bad thing. FPTP is the best system for our current politics. If both Labour and the Tories fracture and split into 2 or morie parties each then proportional representation makes more sense in my opinion. Mind you the Tories are getting towards LibDem support levels in the polls so wer'e getting closer to this being more workable. 1 In my opinion, the house of Lords does offer an important function. It offers checks and balances on the commons. I think the issue is how it's stocked. There should be no life peers. Maybe 25% experienced MPs that serve for a fixed maximum term only. A proportion should be proposed and the rest should voted for by the public. Experienced Civil servants, business leaders etc. In this day and age, the church has no business having any more rights to sit than any other religion or leaders of any other community. They should be voted in. All Lords should sit as independents. 2 We do need modernisation, but my feelings are that we have more important stuff to do first. 3 Maybe. I would make it a rule that candidates should have lived in the constituency or served on the local council for a minimum amount of time. 4 See above. The fears are a lack of ability to agree on actions as well as a disconnect from your local MP. This would possibly mean having to give more power and resources to local government. 5 agreed. Fingers crossed we can force a recall of the Albino Gibbon in Meister Manor. It does require a conviction or extended suspension from Parliament for us poor constituents to get the ball rolling at the moment.
I would much rather go down the pleasant manner route, I feel maybe they are angling for trouble, right to protest being changed, electronic tags without trial, play the system their way, millions voting independent is the loophole they cant close.
I've never quite understood why we've always been told coalitions are such a bad thing. Coalition governments are pretty much the norm in Germany which seems to have got by ok
Germany have more of a multi party system though. The likelyhood of two or more parties agreeing on certain topics is higher so in coalition you're more likely to get a majority and pass things. Traditionally in the UK we've had 2 main parties dominate (certainly in more recent times) that only vote against the other one. You'd need a rainbow coalition of multiple minority parties to gain a majority to pass things here as you're unlikely to get Labour and the Tories agreeing on important stuff like, taxation, defence, public sector funding, education etc. Either you'll need to drop the requirement for a majority to pass things (dangerous) or you devolve important stuff like that to local government which will have the effect of increasing the gap between richer and poorer areas and make the whole system more inefficient.
Maybe we'd have more successful smaller parties if there was a chance of them picking up a few seats? I don't suppose either system is perfect.
The 'Church' (ie The Established Church) has been reasonably strong using its voice in the HoL airing social issues. Also, as the Cof E is a wishy-washy "...you don't have to believe in God..." set up now, they have been extremely active in using their privileged position to give a voice for the various religious communities in the UK. They're extremly 'big' in ecumenical matter:
Yeah, but it's more their Federal set-up with the powers (and parties) that the parliaments of the various Laedser have.
Liz Truss leaves Downing Street with one more vacuous soundbite, I believe in Britain she announced in monotone. Well done Liz. Thanks for that.
Tbf, I believe Britain exists. And there is much to be proud of. Britain is nearly a million years old, has more varieties of cheese than there are cars and we invented the cat.
I'm not saying church leaders shouldn't sit, in actual fact as community leaders they do represent the views of the public. What I am saying is certain churches shouldn't have guaranteed seats or a priority over other churches. If someone represents a large enough segment of society they they should be able to garner enough votes to sit.
