[SOLD] Luis Suarez

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  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Just go to this website, ask yourself whether Suarez is a Granada player and press the button:

    https://www.yesnobutton.com/answer.html
     
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  2. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Then he shouldn't be being paraded around as if he is already a Granada player? Is that not obvious? If he's not yet officially their player then him wearing their gear, getting off their team bus as part of the squad and being displayed as if he were any other player in their team is absolutely ridiculous.

    So either he is officially their player and it's terrible communication yet again, or he's not and it's genuinely one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen in football, and I have no idea why either club would think it's OK.
     
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  3. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    No. I think the club should have told the player and buying club to lie low until the deal is announced. It’s not a lot to expect is it? He didn’t have to fly to Sweden, what’s one more night in a Granada hotel with his GF? If people want to find him there, they will. We can’t stop that as the Spanish media have shown. But if a deal hasn’t been announced, then he shouldn’t be in their club attire, on the pitch etc. That’s my opinion. And it is literally what happens in just about every transfer so it’s not hard to do.
     
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  4. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Yeah I guess it isn't really on Watford if we have allowed him over there to complete the transfer.

    Not going to pretend it really bothers me, but it isn't really on by either Granada or Suarez - as Burnsy said we'd be rightly a bit pissed off if it was a more important player of ours.

    Would quite like us to pull out of the deal and make them both look stupid.
     
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  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Just shows basic competence as a club in my view. I don’t care because I know we aren’t competent. As you say it is clear he is gone.
     
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  6. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    In fairness, if the deal really isn't finalised, we shouldn't have to tell them not to.
     
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  7. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Personally I’m not worked up. I just think it’s bizarre a player is wearing another team tracksuit and celebrating their victory with no club announcement. It’s a situation I can’t remember seeing before (correct me if wrong) and just makes us look clueless. No shock there.

    As others have said there are much bigger things to worry about, so whatever really. It’s the management standard I have come to expect.
     
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  8. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Also - just a question to get opinions...

    But anyone wonder if he might have shown more respect to us or willingness to play for us if we had allowed him to play the playoffs for Zaragoza?

    I doubt it would have changed much. But I also doubt it helped to endear ourselves to him also, even if we were fully in the right.
     
  9. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I imagine Watford don't care in the slightest.

    They know he is leaving, so why care if he's wearing their tracksuit and on the pitch celebrating one of the biggest results in their history.

    "Hi Granada, you know that player you've agreed to sign from us and will probably announce tomorrow? The one we allowed to go to Granada a few days ago so has been likely at your training ground doing his medical, etc. Instead of allowing him to get to know his team mates better, etc. can you just leave him in Granada by himself?"

    "Por que?"

    "It's incredibly embarrassing for us as a club that a player who we know is joining you is seen with your squad. Thanks"

    I actually can't understand why anyone on here cares either, but then again when you look at who is moaning about it here it makes more sense...
     
  10. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Question: have you ever seen this before ever? I might be wrong but I can’t remember players who haven’t been confirmed as sold striding off team buses in full new club togs.

    I agree it doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things but do you honestly not think it is strange at all? I know it’s easier to have a dig at Nath, Burnsy and myself but the situation is genuinely not odd and worthy of comment?
     
  11. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    It hasn't happened to a Watford player before as far as I'm aware, so no. No idea if it has happened to any other clubs but if it has I wouldn't know as it's hardly going to make any headlines if it does, the same way this wont.

    Can't imagine many fans of other clubs in England know about the Suarez situation for example.

    It would be more peculiar if we didn't already know it's an all but confirmed transfer. Maybe Granada have asked Watford to hold off their announcement until they do theirs (and possibly want to do something special)? Maybe it hasn't been ratified yet but they want him with their squad for team integration purposes and Watford are understandably not going to get in the way.

    Some may feel it's worthy of comment and that's fair enough. Personally I feel calling it 'shambolic', 'frankly ridiculous', 'mind blowing levels of inept communication', 'beyond awful', etc. is an overreaction.

    I don't think anyone is disagreeing that it is a little strange, but most people feel it's nothing more than that.

    If we haven't mentioned him leaving before Tuesday, then it becomes more than just a little strange.
     
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  12. Ray Bay

    Ray Bay Academy Graduate

    Never played for us.. Don't need him, don't care..
     
  13. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    You are misquoting. I said it’s a another illustration of the shambolic way the club is run. Which is fair comment. I didn’t say the incident itself if shambolic as it’s pretty irrelevant. It’s just yet another episode that shows our general incompetence in my view but I’m not going to get worked up over it.

    Pozzo’s overall ownership I do get worked up about however.
     
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  14. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Lads, of all the sticks to beat the club with, this is a fairly minor one don't you think?
     
  15. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    I honestly think people get wound up about the strangest things . Suarez is gone, we all know he’s gone. I’m not waiting for an announcement of something I already know.

    My philosophy is just to move on and think about the players who are going to be wearing a Watford shirt , rather than ruminating about something that is if no importance . I realise that people have different ways of dealing with things, but just don’t get Ut . Maybe this is the distinction. between a happy clapper and a bed wetter .
     
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    FFS everyone. We all know why nothing has been announced today.
    It's Thursday FFS !
    There will be an announcement first thing tomorrow morning.
    Now go to sleep.
     
  17. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Paul Ince was never forgiven by Hammers fans for sporting a Man Utd shirt before his transfer was completed.
     
  18. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Thanks I'd almost forgotten the Thursday effect...

    Every day's the same this year.
     
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  19. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I wasn't quoting you.
     
  20. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    I think failing to announce Mariappa's departure probably slightly outdoes this.
     
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  21. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Good point. But maybe example from 1988 shows it is quite rare.
     
  22. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I’d agree. There will be a much bigger stick next week I’d imagine.
     
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  23. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    if both clubs have not announced it then there may still be a reason for this that we are unaware of, this in itself is not unusual. It would be odd if Granada announced it significantly before we did but that doesn’t seem the case.

    If the transfer is not yet complete is it the Pozzos fault that Granada have taken Suarez to Sweden? Is it possible Granada have taken a step out of line here and not us? Or do we think Gino asked them to specifically make Suarez wear a Granada kit before the deal is formalised in order to make himself look a **** and further wind up some anonymous persons on an online forum?

    Given the unknowns I’m not convinced it is another illustration of anything yet, other than perhaps jumping on something that may, or may not, fit a preconceived narrative.
     
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  24. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    What, he's left?!:confused:
     
  25. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    I think there is also a distinction between those who have an interest in our loanees and those who don't:

    If you weren't really following him last year, and this is potentially 15m profit for a player you have never really heard of and doesn't want to play for us, it seems great business by the Pozzos

    If you were following him last year and were excited about what a really promising young player could bring to the squad this year, it is very disappointing to lose him for what seems a relatively small amount and it is further salt in the wounds after relegation (as we would likely have kept him had we stayed up) and can be seen as a further instance of bad management by the Pozzos
     
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  26. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    One of our players is swanning around playing for Marseille at the moment. Quite funny how much teams are taking the piss out of us now.
     
  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    You can understand the frustration.

    He was going to help us "piss the league" with Pedro and Sarr"

    Now he has gone without even a good bye.

    Maybe they are giving him the Pearson treatment.
     
  28. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    It’s quite possible the owners have absolutely no idea some of our fans care so deeply about a player who has never played for us, doesn’t want to play for us and has spent only a few days even in the country.

    He’s hardly Deeney is he.

    He’s a decent signing for for Grenada, so logic dictates they’d want to make a bit of a fan fair over signing him and at least announce it to their fans. They haven’t, yet we as the selling club of a player who has never played for should have announced something that clearly hasn’t even ‘officially’ happened?

    There are many things to get annoyed about, but if this is one of them you need to get out a lot more.
     
  29. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    If you think that’s what people are saying, then you clearly haven’t read what is being posted.

    Not one person had claimed to be upset that Watford haven’t announced it yet. But perhaps some fans care and support the club - so much so that they feel seeing one of their players get off a team-bus and celebrating on pitch for another team undermines us a bit as a club at a time when we should be trying to rebuild our reputation. It’s bizarre that we have allowed it, that’s all. But I don’t think any of are surprised anymore as @Jumbolina says. It’s not a huge faux pas - but like the social media posts regarding Suarez and Estupinan, it’s another misstep.

    I understand that some fans aren’t bothered by this. That’s fair enough and I’m not telling you you’re wrong. But I don’t like seeing my club being treated a bit like mugs through their own incompetence. I really don’t think it was too much to ask to insist Granada kept him back in Spain for another evening.

    The more positive fans love to take a negative comment from someone on here and blow it up as ‘people getting so upset’.
     
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  30. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    With who does it harm our reputation?
     
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  31. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    With some of our own fans?

    I’m not saying we should all feel the same about this. I just wish these little things would stop occurring. As he been said above, this is literally the first time I’ve ever seen this...it’s bizarre.
     
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  32. you want us to give him a goodbye?

    he’s shown utter contempt for the club, **** him, he doesn’t deserve so much as a mention.

    what I find a bit odd is people here getting worked up over players who don’t want to be here, and have very little to say about those that do.
     
  33. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    So the club are supposed to tell an outgoing player/buying club not to do xyz before any official announcement? You can sign for Grenada but we don’t want to see you getting off their team bus? What would be the consequence of him then doing it? We don’t sell him?

    Why would they care? He never played for us, he’s gone, and clearly imminently signing for another club, I just don’t see why they’d give a toss.

    it’s hardly Paul Ince posing in a Utd shirt is it?
     
  34. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think it’s a bit odd too. I’m not sure I feel any stronger than that and I really can’t see it affects the reputation of the club. I’m sure it’ll be announced when the deal is complete. I’m not sure Watford really have much meaningful leverage to stop him pretending to be a Granada player in the meantime even if they wanted to. Both player and buying club could ignore it and, presumably, we’d still complete the deal.
     
  35. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    It's a little bizarre, but we had Sierralta literally playing in a pre-season game for us while being owned by another club! Yes it was Udinese but still. If you're even remotely bothered by this then you need to get out more.
     
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