Adlene Guedioura

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by hornetboy1, Nov 25, 2014.

  1. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Yes to all.
     
  2. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Hear Hear.
    Buy him for a compromise £1.5m, if he genuinely isn't getting much playing time (which he will) sell him for £3.5m to QPR or Bristol in January. Simples....
     
  3. How much was he on then? Don't be shy
     
  4. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    I want him back but £3.5 mill isn't worth it, he can't blame us, blame his sh*t team.

    Mind you, Crystal Palace are putting together an amazing team.
     
  5. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    He's not worth 3.5 million.
     
  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    But that's supposedly what QPR and Bristol C have bid (per wdsport website). If we increase our bid to £1m-£1.5m, given AG will only come to us, we can more than recover our cost in January if needbe. Leave our bid at £500k and CP might just conclude they might as well risk letting his contract run down
     
  7. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Are they? Personally I think they've signed some utter dross. Aren't opinions great?
     
  8. NortholtHorn

    NortholtHorn Reservist

    I'm assuming there 3.5m is a negotiating tactic. In real terms I'd assume they're actually after 1.5-2 and when we offered the 0.5 they turned round with 3.5 in a hope for a 'meet you in the middle' deal. But who knows anyways.
     
  9. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Wasn't he heading for The Budley Salterton home for the terminally short of cash.
    Ps apologies for dislike. Fat fingers
    Pps I wasn't calling you fat fingers
     
  10. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    Yup. They'll probably do OK but I wouldn't call them amazing either. Apart from Cabaye who is genuinely excellent I've not been impressed so far. Connor Wickham has some quality but is massively over-priced at £9M (and Jordon Mutch for nearly £6M!!!). Bamford might do well at this level but I suspect he probably won't. Also Bolasie who I rate as their best player could well be on his way to Spuds.
     
  11. Zaha and Bolasie either side of Cabaye is a decent 3 in a 4231
     
  12. Rontaylor

    Rontaylor Reservist

    You may well be right but the article said they'd been offered that by two clubs.
     
  13. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Yes he was I think! My dad saw Drobny play there,muttering 'no ballboys for a player of my calibre'!

    Think this saga has some way to go yet.Who will blink first,probably Parish when his fringe gets in his eyes.
     
  14. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    Haha. Easily done, even with bony fingers
     
  15. lotiman

    lotiman Reservist

    I'll be completely alone in this, but I happen to think that not only is he worth good money, his approach to the game means that he is the sort of player who could have a future at the club beyond his playing days.....his attitude, infectious enthusiasm, passion and leadership on the field mark him out as coaching material

    But that's just me

    cue avalanche of personal insults
     
  16. NortholtHorn

    NortholtHorn Reservist

    If his attitude in the pitch is anything to go by I think everyone will agree. Hard working, a player of any level or age can improve there game simply by working a lot harder.
     
  17. Palace have signed Sako. I think they're putting together a thoroughly decent team. However, Sako's agent put it about that he wouldn't sign for less than 80k a week, so make of that what you will!
     
  18. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    a thoroughly expensive team certainly
     
  19. colesy86

    colesy86 Academy Graduate

    Cabaye & Sako = £180k a week apparently?!:forehead:
     
  20. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Cabaye - good.
    Bamford - decent in the Championship but disappeared towards the end of the season.
    Sako - decent in the Championship, no more than that. Could be on crazy wages.
    Wickham - I don't understand what anyone see's in him, he's been ****ing awful whenever I see him. They've massively overpaid because he's British.
     
  21. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Wickham for 9 million is hilarious. He's somehow still making a living off a couple of decent seasons for Ipswich as a youngster. In the last four years he's scored 20 league goals and only 11 in the top flight. Stunningly average record. I honestly wouldn't pay 2 million for him.
     
  22. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    I'd say Sunderland have done the best business this window by getting their money back for Wickham!
     
  23. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    QPR overpay for everyone. They're a long way from a good yardstick for value.

    The facts are that he is in the last year of his contract, is unproven in the Premier League, is not homegrown, is not English and is not getting into their squad. For me, that does not add up to a 3.5 million sale price. Better players than him have been sold for less from first team squads when in the last year of their contract, and he isn't even playing for Palace.

    If they keep him for the year, the cost isn't 500k. It's 500k + the wages they will pay for the remaining duration of his contract. Given that he's contracted to a Premier League team it seems likely he's on at least 25k per week, which equates to about 1.3 million a year (and that could well be a lowball estimate) pre-bonuses. Add into that the lost 500k and it ends up costing them 1.8 million before the accountants start getting creative. That just doesn't make sense.
     
  24. miserableoldgit

    miserableoldgit Reservist

    Issue with a silly bid like 500k is that if that is the only deal Guedioura will go for then if i was Palace i would keep him as an insurance policy and look to sell in Jan

    I suspect we will sweeten the deal before end of the month after Behrami has been sent off twice and Abdi is injured!
     
  25. Douglas Rinaldi

    Douglas Rinaldi Reservist

    Now just to recoup the money for the other 50 odd players they've blown silly money on in the last 10 years.
     
  26. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    Yep, Defoe's contract alone is worth £14M. That's £3.5M per goal as it stands.
     
  27. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    The Pozzos methods for buying and valuing players has been successful for 20 years. Can't see them changing it for what is essentially an excellent second division player.

    Yes, he was brilliant.
    Yes, he loves the place.
    Yes, he played a big part in our promotion.
    Yes, I want us to sign him.

    No, we shouldn't pay £3.5m for him.
     
  28. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Agree with all of this. It's also worth noting that Sunderland have made a PROFIT on Connor Wickham.

    Now, let that just sink in for a moment. Sunderland have made a profit on Wickham.

    I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
     
  29. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    They signed him for £8m rising to £12m and sold him for £7m potentially rising to £9m. After wages etc, probably a decent loss.

    Btw I'd have been pretty chuffed if we signed him for £2m.
     
  30. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Ah I think you're right actually. Whoops!

    I'd probably take him for £2m, but only if we've exhausted all other options.
     
  31. 352

    352 Moderator

    Wickham's still dead young. You never know, he could end up doing really really well at Palace. Mad money for a player with that record, of course, but what English player, particularly younger players, are ever going to be moving for a normal fee these days?
     
  32. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    No we shouldn't but not sure anyone is saying we should. The issue is we've apparently only offered £500k. I'd be prepared to pay £1m maybe £1.5m if need be to get a deal done. Would you ?
     
  33. Parish has had £500k already out of us

    Another £500k (offered) will round it up to a million
     
  34. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Good lads. If you and Watford Talk put up £1m-£1.5m each I'm sure that would ease his passage to Watford.
     
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    The undeniable truth didn't become a billionaire with shoddy business acumen.
     

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