Worst Pozzo Players

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by WatfordTalk, Feb 7, 2021.

  1. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    To take my mind off the on-field...entertainment, I'm looking to find the definitive worst Pozzo-era line up, consisted of players signed since they joined. Votes for GK, LB and RB are up so far, feel free to cast your vote or make suggestions, will update the results on this post.

    https://twitter.com/WatfordTalk/status/1358400019875958785?s=19

    GK:
    A) Costel Pantillimon
    B) Giedrius Arlauskis
    C) Orestis Karnezis

    LB:
    A) Matthew Briggs
    B) Jean-Alain Fanchone
    C) Marvin Zeegalaar

    RB:
    A) Brice Dja Djedje
    B) Dimitri Foulquier
    C) Marc Navarro
     
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  3. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    For defenders it must be Craig Dawson, I mean where is he in the league now? Murray on loan must rank as the worst loan signing. You couldn’t see him scoring in the Olympian Sunday league let alone theChampionship.
     
  4. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Certainly not Orestis.
    What we have now is our own version of the Orestia,only difference being I don't have to stand up throughout the full nine hours.
     
  5. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    The fabled transfer policy I have never actually seen in action. We just sign multiple rejects, 20 year old punts, footballing oddballs and journeyman. We err toward journeyman more often than not, and every time theres a voice on twitter that says "not very Pozzo-esque signing" but this mysterious scouting network seems to deliver so very little Richarlison gems that you'd be tempted to say it isnt the Pozzo plan to unearth cheap young players at all.
    For every Vydra theres 3 Oulares. For every Abdi theres 5 Navarros. For every Ighalo there's 5 years on Jerome Sinclair's contract.
     
  6. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    Do we consider what pozzo got from them too. They may of been complete dross in yellow but been relatively good on loan or where they moved on to. Not making Pozzo look completely off the mark.


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  7. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Just judging on performances in a Watford shirt, I think. Foulquier for example has gone on to have a solid stint at Granada
     
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  8. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    Yes think the club received a fee for him and never looked like complete mugs too.


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  9. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    I’ll vote b for all 3


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  10. easthertshornet

    easthertshornet Reservist

    I think Navarro is the worst right back I've ever seen in a Watford shirt and that's saying something!
     
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  11. Whippendell Woods

    Whippendell Woods Squad Player

    Murray wasn’t the worst striker loan. We had that Korean international striker Park something on loan from Arsenal. A Wenger signing who was going to be brilliant. For Arsenal. Except he wasn’t and they loaned him to the Pozzos. Think he played one half for us and that was it. He was gash.

    I’ve also long thought the Pozzo model and idea and attraction to tabled to them by Duxbury and Gian Luca Nani when they bought Watford was to buy and sell as many players as possible, creaming off somehow all the % in fees and agents kickbacks. They’d never lose. That’s been curtailed somewhat by our failings, the tightening of rules, Brexit and COVID strangling clubs finances. Hence the sale of so many of our assets to Udinese where the money movement is clouded.
     
  12. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    First 3 inclusions confirmed:

    GK: Arlauskis (60% of vote)
    LB: Briggs (54% of vote)
    RB: Dja Djedje (44% of vote, Foulquier got 40%)

    Next 3 votes:

    Centre Back #1:

    A) Reece Brown
    B) Essaid Belkalem
    C) Gabriel Tamas

    Centre Back #2:

    A) Neuton
    B) Lucas Neill
    C) Craig Dawson

    Left Midfield:

    A) Lloyd Dyer
    B) Kenedy
    C) José Manuel Jurado
    D) Alessandro Diamanti

    https://twitter.com/WatfordTalk/status/1358832226381795338?s=19
     
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  13. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Brice Dja Djedje was not terrible imo.
     
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  14. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Reservist

    In all fairness Zeegalaar isn't actually a bad player.
     
  15. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    How did Navarro not get the right back spot !!
     
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  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Got to be Belkalem at CB. He was supposed to be the next big thing.
     
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  17. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    That strange pointing thing he did. And all those foul throws.
     
  18. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    I think you're a bit harsh on some. It's difficult to get form if you don't get consistent opportunities.
     
  19. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Should stress they're not necessarily my choices. Jurado was a misunderstood, neat and tidy genius
     
  20. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    6 squad members now:


    GK: Arlauskis
    RB: Dja Djedje
    CB: Gabriel Tamas
    CB: Neuton
    LB: Matthew Briggs
    LM: Kenedy

    Next 3 votes up:

    RM:
    A) Geoffrey Mujanji Bia
    B) Victor Ibarbo
    C) Nordin Amrabat
    D) Ignacio Pussetto

    CM 1:
    A) Josh Mceachran
    B) Iriney
    C) Mario Suarez
    D) James Garner

    CM 2:
    A) Alexander Merkel
    B) Samba Diakite
    C) Keith Andrews

    https://twitter.com/WatfordTalk/status/1359216019265507334?s=19
     
  21. watfordD92

    watfordD92 Academy Graduate

    Aggravating how on paper some promised so much and failed to deliver....George Thorne, Lewis McGugan spring to mind! Left mid Albert Riera must have been close!
     
  22. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Remember Kenedy playing the last 15 minutes of an abject away defeat at Burnley, looking quite good and then we never saw him again!
     
  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Was just about to say. From memory he was half decent, just horrifically managed.

    Foulquier and Navarro much worse. And Kiko last season.
     
  24. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Yeah, very surprised he won. I have no memory of him, negative or positive.
     
  25. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    I was at that game and have no recollection of him!
     
  26. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Foulquier is a weird one, only ever looked very very limited for us, but has had plenty of success in Spain, what's the deal there? Is La Liga largely **** in comparison with the Prem? Is it that he just fitted in well in teams who are similar to Burnley? Or did we just drag him down?

    With the **** players we've had in the Prem, they can at least hide behind the fact that they're up against the elite, Navarro on the other hand constantly looks out of his depth against much lower opposition
     
  27. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    A lot of our players have been played in only fits and starts. Looking terrible in a sub appearance or two and then shipped off.

    Often initial impressions are correct, but it seems that we have turned over so many players that often they have just been out of sorts or not utilised correctly.

    I hold my hands up and admit i will judge a player within 5 minutes, but I'm not in control of 7 figure player budgets or making the best use of these resources.
     
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  28. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    At the current rate Obbi Oulare is going to miss out on the worst XI to Jerome Sinclair, which would be a travesty.

    Oulare cost more, contributed less, and looked like one of those Americans that sometimes pop up on Soccer Aid and can't kick a ball and don't really understand the game.
     
  29. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    9 down, 2 to go...


    GK: Arlauskis
    RB: Dja Djedje
    CB: Gabriel Tamas
    CB: Neuton
    LB: Matthew Briggs
    RM: Victor Ibarbo
    CM: Josh McEachran
    CM: Samba Diakite
    LM: Kenedy

    Last 2 votes:

    ST #1:

    A) Alexandre Geijo
    B) Andre Gray
    C) Mathias Ranegie
    D) Park Chu-Young

    ST #2:

    A) Javier Acuna
    B) Obbi Oulare
    C) Jerome Sinclair
    D) Steve Leo Beleck

    https://twitter.com/WatfordTalk/status/1359591284390912001?s=19
     
  30. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Surprised your namesake isn't doing better, tbh
     
  31. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Reservist

    Steve Leo Beleck had the best highlight video. Flicks, tricks, sublime finishes, wild celebrations in front of 200 fans plus the obligatory Euro trance music. 10 out of 10 video.

    Shame he ended up a slightly more rubbish Steve Butler.
     
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  32. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    But that's enough about the wfcforums poster. What about the former Watford player?
     
  33. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Harsh on Geijo.
     
  34. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Yeah, I quite liked him. Ranegie, too. Did an elimination vote of Ranegie, Geijo, Fabbrini, Success, Acuna and Gray. Fabbrini and Success were saved
     
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  35. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I agree I thought Renege was harshly treated he was a decent finisher IMO.
     

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