West Ham handed record £5.5m fine West Ham have been fined £5.5m after being found guilty over charges relating to the transfers of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano. But the Hammers have avoided a points deduction which could have ended their hopes of staying in the Premeirship c&p from bbc.com
anyone find it coincidental that the FA need to recover money they spent on Wembley and then a club with a bit to spray about get themselves in a spot of bother. I think the FA have landed themselves a touch with this. They could have deducted points and sent West Ham down which of course their fans etc would not have been happy about, but they have given them this huge fine that can go some way, ok only a tiny fraction, to repaying Wembley.
Nice idea. Shame the FA (Football Association) aren't the Premier League, a different organisation altogether
if they get relegated that fine would constitute about 30% of their turnover in the championship, so in that respect it is suprisingly strong action from the people in charge.
Very good point however I would still have liked to have seen a points deduction as well as a heavy fine.
i think they also will now need to either buy tevez outright (which should be quite a large sum) or formally loan him (and if his owner is as shrewd as the papers make out then this should be very expensive too) which means it may take a bit of time before they can play him again.
In this money motivated game called football I see little or no point in fines for either clubs nor players. If point deductions were the norm be it for the club or player it would go some way towards cleaning the game up. Im fed up with hearing that a player has been fined two weeks wages for bringing the game into disrepute. It means nothing when these players earn enough in a few weeks to pay off most peoples mortgages. However if the fines were replaced by point deductions then we might see a change in attitude by both players and clubs. You can pick any club in the Prem that says they have fined such and such player and that it is being dealt with internally. Change this round to the club being deducted three or six points and the whole structure and attitude changes. Unfortunately the governing bodies are weak and in most cases its the tail is wagging the dog and god forbid that they upset the likes of Man U or Chelsea. Just imagine if there was a mass brawl in the Man U v Chelsea match and it was proven that it was incited by Man U and rather than a fine they were deducted six points. One can but dream but points can in some instances be far more expensive than the petty cash slap on the wrist.
Agree with what Tring says. I seem to remember in the early 90's that Arsenal and Man Utd got points deducted for a mass brawl but this never happens anymore. I am sure the reason is the Premier League are too scared of being taken to court over this as it could relegate a side and cost millions in solicitors fees etc. Perhaps they need to change the rules and insert this sort of thing, especially as the Premier League are now completely seperate to the FA. Not too worried about Wet Spam only being fined though as they are still going down anyway (well hopefully!) Also you can almost add another 6 million on to that as that is what they wasted on Upson as well who has only played something like 42 mins.
I feel that a point deduction as well as a Large fine would of been better, would send out a clearer message and we wouldn't of finished bottom. Though this is the biggest fine ever to imposed on a club.
Surely if West Ham need to buy Tevez or officially loan him then they cannot do that until the transfer window re-opens and he should therefore be inelligable to play. BUT as others have said the FA are weak and what seems like a huge fine is actually a token gesture at punishment, as they know that the club can well afford it.:dismay:
As others have said this has nothing to do with the old farts at the FA , but the corrupt owners of the premiership . You can guarentee that we would have been deducted points along with any other team that the premiership feels is not all singing and dancing enough to be in it .
A few years ago Hammers would have been deducted points. When you have a big foreign investor/ conglomerate, the FA won't touch you. Remember Curbishley boasting about his £25mil transfer budget? Puts things into perspective of a club that size.
Too many people are quick to blame the FA for everything so to make it clear: Football Association (FA): are responsible for the England team and the whole disciplinary side of the game. They enforce regulations that come down from on high (FIFA & UEFA) as well. Also run the FA Cup, the FA Trophy, the FA Vase and own the national stadium. The FA are also stakeholders in the FAPL. The Premier League (FAPL): are a seperate organisation altogether (in fact they're a company) and are responsible for the Premiership and the regulation of that competition. The Football League (FL): another separate organisation, running the Championship, League 1 and League 2. The FL also run the Football League Trophy and the League Cup. On a technical level the FAPL and the FL are separate bodies. They are obviously very close in practice but to join one you have to resign from the other. By convention this is decided via promotion/relegation. Each of these bodies has responsibility for the running of it's own competitions. They decide the rules and administer the punishments for breaking them. The FAPL dealt with West Ham's case because the club broke league rules on player registration. It was outside the FA's jurisdiction so they weren't involved.
It is not even known as the FAPL now, it is just the PL, hence their new logo. There has been a complete break of ties between them. The PL will never docks points from clubs as they are a commercial organisaton, unlike the FA, which is meant to look ater the game as all levels. I honestly expect the PL to become a closed shop within the next 10 years and relegation and promotion to be scrapped, so clubs like West Ham with their big foreign investors can not go down. I thik Garath Southgate mentioned it this week that relegation should be scrapped, just goes to show why I am looking forward to being back in the championship.
Is that a new thing? Only been out of touch for a year, but now you mention it I do vaguely remember reading something along those lines. What the Premier League stalwarts don't seem to understand is that in order to be top of a pyramid you have to rely on those at the bottom to survive, or it all collapses.
According to some papers today the Premiere League were told by West Ham that a points deduction would be fought in court. The Premiere League didn't want this because they might have had to begun the new season without knowing for sure who had been relegated, hence the huge fine instead.
They managed it in Italy this season , and it's still not over as far as court action is concerned. c+p skysports Wigan chairman Dave Whelan claims five or six clubs would consider taking legal action against the Premier League and West Ham should The Hammers avoid relegation. Whelan claims he has held discussions with The Latics' relegation rivals following the Premier League's controversial decision not to dock The Hammers points for their mishandling of the transfers of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano. The Upton Park club were hit with a record reprimand of £5.5million but that is a mere drop in the ocean in comparison to the riches on offer for an extended stay in a top flight made even more lucrative from next season. "If West Ham manage to stay up we, as five or six clubs, who have been talking to each other, want to find out whether, one, could we sue the Premier League and, two, could we sue West Ham," Whelan told Sky Sports News. "Two clubs are getting legal advice and we're awaiting the outcome of that legal advice and if we get the advice that we would stand a good chance I think the bottom six clubs will do it. "We have to do something about this because what has gone on is not fair, it's not in the interests of the Premier League. "At present the Premier League is in turmoil because of certain allegations in the Sunday newspapers of the Argentinians still having a contract over this lad Tevez. "We're asking the question. Is that the case? And at the moment we have had no answer from the Premier League on that." Whelan claimed the matter is one of principle and has vowed to remain loyal to his aggrieved 'coalition'. "If Wigan stayed up I would still support any club going down who felt a grievance. I would support them financially and I think we [the five or six clubs] would band together and do that." Don't blame them really, it has been a shambles and If they do manage to stay up , they could find themsleves with a 10 point dedustion at the start of the new season .
