Agree about Gray But after that showing I think relegation might be what we need to sort the mess that seems to be our club at the moment. We dont deserve to stop teams who show a bit of fight when their backs are to the wall their place in the premier league. There's a bad rot in that team and it needs a shock to sort it. I dont think I could take another year of that.
I do actually agree with you. Whilst I suspect it will be a while before we earn promotion back to the PL, rleegation will be the PERFECT opportunity to cut the rot out of this club from top to bottom. We have so many spineless individuals and ball watchers it's painful. Cannot wait to see the back of them regardless of the division we are in.
No...this is not the case. Pearson very much likes the club and he's got a good relationship with the board.....certainly superficially. He wants to stay. It's the players that are letting him down. Every match it's a new culprit. Today Masina, Kiko and Foster were the villain's with horrendous first half performances. Next game it will be someone else. Only credit today is for Hughes and Sarr. The only two that were brave enough to try and make things happen. I wouldn't say the players weren't trying, but they were not brave enough. They all took the easy option, and if they do that against a motivated opponent, then a 3-0 deficit half time score line s what you'll usually get.
I do not think that is true. He wanted some guarantees. They were not prepared to give them. My guess is that this due to the perilous position the club were in and rightly still are. He just worked to rule. He is known to be stubborn.
They're not great. But with proper concentration and application this season we wouldn't be relegated.
So disappointing. Didnt do the basics in the first 10 minutes and it killed us. Really are relying on other results now because it's barely in our hands now
To be honest if some of the sketchy VAR decisions were correct we wouldn't be either. Absolute farce of a season - not helped by our cowardly players.
Classic Watford ‘cup final’ performance. Total no shows yet again. I was fuming with that first half performance - didn’t press them, didn’t close down, didn’t make tackles, didn’t challenge headers. They clearly hadn’t done their homework either; why is Masina showing Bowen inside on to his left foot every... Single... TIME?! It was the perfect encapsulation of everything we’ve failed at on the pitch this season. What was the attacking plan? We seemed to want to get Sarr in behind, but West Ham dealt with that well. So we tried again. And they dealt with it again. And on and on. Deeney once again offered nothing. Doucoure didn’t get close enough to him. Welback was stuck too wide and couldn’t get the better of some kid. We were toothless, meaning we never sustained any kind of threat and the pressure was straight back on our hopeless defense again. Second half we showed a little more fight. We still weren’t good, but a bit of hard work and tenacity and we won the second half. It made me angrier; why didn’t we turn up from the start? It was a winnable game! Pearson proved once again how useless he is at making substitutes. We’re on the front foot, putting on some pressure and potentially getting back in to the game - then Doucoure gets brought off. The one midfielder breaking forward, going beyond Deeney. He was linking play and showing way more effort than at any point since the restart. Things were happening when we countered and when Doucoure was running at them. Chalobah is not that player. We lost that dimension and so had no alternatives. Any slight glimmer of a comebsck was lost in that moment. I have no idea if this post is coherent, I’m just venting right now. We had a chance to make ourselves safe and we bottled it entirely. Reliant on Southampton, Arsenal, Everton and West Ham. Not a good place to be.
In the end, it is just football. Tomorrow is another day and we all have better things to do. I am going fishing with my son, who supports Man Utd. Yes, l tried. He had kits, PJ's, etc,etc. Yet he reached 5 and realised that we are s**t. It was a massive game for the club and the players just s**t themselves. Simple as that. They didn't have the heart or skills for a battle. They should be ashamed, but they won't be. We care, but they don't. Life is a bitch at times. Have a good weekend everyone.
I hate it when they say the next game is a cup final, because all that means is Watford will just not turn up and will put in a pitiful performance. They need to find another analogy. Call it a pre-season friendly......as they play better when there's nothing riding on it.
I just cant believe how terrible we were in the first half. I think Pearson before the game was playing down the importance of the game, trying to relax the team. However it just made them lackadaisical about tackling, pressing and general defending. I also dont know why he took off Doucoure, who had improved and was part of a lot of the good things we did 2nd half.
Loved that interview from Pearson. He is scathing. Lets just compare that to QSF interview after we lost EIGHT nil to Man City in September.
Interesting (thankfully) no tweets or Instagram posts from the official club account. Clearly been told not to. Wonder if Pearson is getting sacked in the morning? Would very Pozzo-y. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The sad thing about this game was I was far more nervous watching the Villa and Bournemouth games. Tonight the game was dead after 10 minutes, so there was no need to feel anxious. When we're winning, I always think we'll screw it up. When Villa or Bournemouth attack I think they'll score. I much prefer to be losing, as then I can have the stress free feeling of hopelessness.
Scary thought that if villa and muff don't win again then that team will still be in the premier league next season
First time in 30 years of watching us that I've given up and walked away before the final whistle. Didn't even make it past half time. Something snapped tonight after countless half baked, disinterested performances. A weight off that the white flag has gone up and we're done, but also a feeling of distance and not looking back. To her credit, my 12 year old daughter, who absolutely loves Watford sat on her own and watched the whole game.
As my thread tonight says, it's just impossible to feel any real connection with this club and it's detestable playing staff any more.
Where to start? That first half hour was everything we didn't want it to be. I really don't think our players come off the pitch with less sweat and mud than the opposition. Although there are some exceptions I would make, most of the players want to try hard. But trying physically and mentally are different things. The best players are good with their brains as well as their feet. I think quite a few of the squad fail in the former department. Nevertheless, most of the comments on here are about cowardice and lack of effort and caring. It's the English fans' way of explaining failure. Our full-backs were exposed for what they are: Poor full backs. Femenia is a winger, and actually quite a decent one. He is not a full back: He doesn't think like one and he doesn't understand how nor have the experience to be one. The defence collectively thinks slowly and doesn't anticipate problems and then panics when things get threatening. The first goal: Just clear the loose ball; but, no it's recycled and then Watford get a little unlucky - another time and Foster saves that with his legs - we've seen him do that numerous times. But, just as you can make your own good luck, so you can make your own bad luck. Second goal: Very good cross and probably well -rehearsed routine as a 6'4" player competes with a 5' 8" player with poor positional and tactical sense. Only one result there. Goal three: Very good strike (perhaps the sort of thing you try when everything is going for you), but I'm disappointed Foster just stood and watched it. I think he should have at least got close. Game over. Was there anybody on the WFC side who came out with credit? Yes: Hughes, not for the first time, my man of the match. Sarr. Dawson. Doucoure to a certain extent. Wellbeck I thought didn't get much service, so I'd give him a pass. The rest? - Pffft. I think we're down; I'm not sure about Villa, who are poor, but I don't think Bournemouth will miss out in their two opportunities to overtake us. Lots of thinking and acting for our owners - if they don't abandon the project. Sorry to try to be so rational - I'm as f****d off as the rest of you.
If this forum is good for anything, it’s surely to urge you to do the right thing? https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/se...otection/Report-child-protection-concern.aspx It’s not too late. With the help of dedicated professionals she can live out her life as an Arsenal or Tottenham fan.
I think the most depressing thing about this game is that after the second goal I just sighed a little and carried on browsing my emails. I'm so apathetic about this team and my club right now that I can barely muster a care about what's happening. I'm sleepwalking into the championship with the players it would seem.
Can't stop being angry at our players. They've been **** all season but they have one game, just one, to turn up and get anything out of it. And it's all over after 10 minutes. The half a week preparation, the team talk that Pearson gave before they went out there. 10 minutes and that's it. So weak, so pathetic. West Ham scored with their first attack, that's **** but let's stay in the game and keep it tight. Show a bit of bottle. Nope, not our bunch of misfits. A total capitulation. And most of them don't care. This means nothing to them, absolutely nothing. The good ones (haha) will find another home and continue in the Premier League or elsewhere. The **** ones won't care as they're counting their £40k+ a week, safe in the knowledge they're they'll continue to get paid until the end of their five year contract. Just a thoroughly spineless bunch of ******s. There's no identity, no togetherness, no discernible style of play. Certainly not bottle. They ****ed Javi over because they were all pissed off about the bonus row so didn't bother with pre season, then Ginius Pozzo got Quique back. And then we had a chance to survive and they took the piss during lockdown with a group coming back later and being unfit. It's a rotten dressing room and has been for years.
Foster is such a happy gurning millionaire isn’t he? I’m sure he’ll make the same happy faces after we let in a late goal at Preston. For all his great saves can’t stand the guy.
This never fails to astonish me/grind my gears. I still recall that FA Cup semi against Palace when we just didn't bother to turn up (which of course turned out to be nothing more than the introduction of a key theme) and then at the end, Deeney and the lads wandered about the Wembley pitch, grinning, chatting and backslapping with the opposition players. Have some ******* decorum. You may not care, but it didn't cost you £50 or more to come and watch yourselves barely bother to get out of second gear. Quite the opposite, in fact. If you really have something to say, wait until the tunnel, or the myriad opportunities in the wake of the match. Don't rub fans' faces in it and show just how little it means to you by having a nice mothers' meeting within seconds of crashing out of the cup at the final hurdle on the very turf it just happened on with the very people who caused the crash. And this is, of course, far from an isolated incident, or confined to the latter stages of knockout competitions. It still happens regularly to this very day. Unbelievable.
Yes it really is the 3 at the top, Gino Scott and Giraldi who have completely f **ked this up. One disasterous decision after another since the Wolves game. They strangled the golden goose.