WBA 3-1 Watford FC - 03/12/2016

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by GoingDown, Dec 1, 2016.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Predictably Mazzarri is blaming the referee......he may have a point, but he has to stop this mentality.

    He's going down the Mourinho route, who is clearly a target for officials now......but it's something he's created himself with this "everyone is out to get us" attitude.

    This is Watford, we always get poor decisions, we all know this will happen regardless, so there's no point in going on about it. Just shrug your shoulders and get on with it as there is nothing you can do about it.

    We've been rubbish a defending crosses all season, and he's not improved it. It's largely down to the space we give the opposition by playing 3 at the back. This is his philosophy and this is something he can do something about.

    He can also do something about the way we attack. Apparently he's great at getting the best out of strikers. Ighalo.....nope.....Deeney....nope.....the others he rarely plays.

    http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sp..._Graham_Scott_as_terrible_after_Baggies_loss/
     
  2. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    Fair enough, but didn't the bookies predict we wouldn't vote for Brexit and Clinton would become president? #justsaying

    Similar to last season, our play at the moment has a whiff of free fall about it.
     
  3. TomH

    TomH First Year Pro

    Maybe Sherlock can confirm or correct but wasn't Mazzari widely mocked for his time at Inter for forever blaming every one and everything else for their troubles.
     
  4. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Who are you and what have you done with HB1?
     
  5. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Okaka wasn't brilliant, but he has barely played in this division. He doesn't deserve to be picked out for criticism when the team is full of such experience.
     
  6. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

  7. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    The result is irrelevant. Hopefully Ray pulls through and will be back watching the 'Orns soon.
     
  8. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I cannot believe that either the players or management think this at all, and if they do, they should be given a damned good talking to. We're not Citeh or Chelski. If you extrapolate our last four results over the remainder of the season, you get to 36 points or so.

    On another note: discipline. Many are blaming Mazzarri. Should not the on field captain have some responsibility for keeping discipline? I genuinely don't have a view on this, I merely offer it as a discussion point...
     
  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I used to care and get annoyed, now I just accept it is just the same as death and taxes. Watford will always get bad decisions, no point in even talking about it anymore.
     
  10. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    Ray as in old man ray?
     
  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Responsibility starts at the top Mazzari should be laying down the need to stay disciplined. Deeney should take on the responsibility on the pitch but individuals must also take responsibility for themselves, getting booked for dissent is just brainless. Getting sent off for reacting to a foul is almost as bad.
     
  12. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

  13. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Lets face some reality. We are 10th in what is considered to be the best league in the world. We were missing Janmaat, Cathcart, Britos, Kaboul and Behrami, all who would be considered part of the match day 18 and all defensive players.

    Today though showed what we lack up front. The only real save that Foster made was from Amrabat very early on, other wise we caused them no real trouble, despite all our possession.

    Deeney seems to be more content moaning at others instead of putting in a decent performance, Gomes has lost something this year. To many goals he has been indecisive on or his timing and reaction time hasn't been right. That doesn't give the defence confidence.

    I thought that Prodil was again outstanding as was Zuniga.

    We probably didn't deserve to lose, but by the lack of chances we created we didn't deserve to win either.
     
  14. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Yes mate.

    I'm hearing that he didn't make it. Lost for words.

    RIP Ray.
     
  15. TheWatford

    TheWatford Academy Graduate

    Not sure Nyom deserved all the stick he was getting but he was a grade A **** for his celebrations right in front of the Watford fans. But even that doesn't warrant the racist abuse that some massive ****** behind me gave him. Absolutely disgusting and I hope he is identified and punished.

    I'd also like to make my weekly point that out set piece defending is a joke and it was the reason we lost a game between two fairly even sides.
     
  16. dynamo380

    dynamo380 Reservist

    I dont think ive ever known a Watford side as frustrating to watch as this current one. I certainly cant remember a Watford side as determined to shoot its self in the foot as this one.

    The scoreline isnt a fair reflection of a game in which we were not just comfortable for most of it but actually on top. An improved performance but the same old issues are still there such as the lack of creativity, lack of balance in the side & a seeming inability to defend cross balls.

    Cant argue with the red card, you just cant react like that. What I take issue with is McClean only getting a yellow for what was a quite deliberate stamp on Pereya.
    Pereya is this seasons Abdi. Is creative and has the potential to be hugely influenatial but is being wasted wide out in a postion that he is just horribley ineffective in.

    Despite the frustrations there are positives to take from the game, which is more than could be said last week against Stoke.
     
  17. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    I think the make up of the team is actually affecting us, have we ever had so many dislikable players in a team?

    Holebas comes across a Grade A nob.

    Capoue the same.

    Deeney gets increasingly arrogant by the day.

    Ighalo couldn't care less.

    Behrami's only here because Mazzari is here.

    Could say the same for Zuniga.

    It's slightly worrying.
     
  18. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

    We really missed Capoue & Pereyra today. What do you mean they were playing?

    Why is Kabasele not picked each week? Along with Prodil, he's our best defender.
     
  19. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Sad day. F**K the football at the minute.
     
  20. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Did you report the perpetrator/take a picture?
     
  21. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Yes, that's just terrible.
     
  22. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    You've conceded the most goals from corners in the league.

    The opposition have scored the most goals from corners in the league.

    First corner, you get all your defenders to stand in a line inside the six yard box, whilst the opposition get ready for a nice run up. You don't bother using any of the seven statues to stop the bloke standing right next to your goalkeeper obstructing him. Evans was about three yards out in the middle of the goal when he headed it in. What on earth did we expect?

    Edit: Just seen the sad news posted on Twitter. How we defend a corner doesn't matter a jot anymore.
     
  23. TheWatford

    TheWatford Academy Graduate

    As he was behind me I couldn't be sure who it was. Think others may be able to identify him though.
     
  24. põder

    põder First Year Pro

    There was more than one racist scumbag at the back of the Smethwick today. Haven't heard racist abuse for years, and I'm wondering now if Nyom's insane goading was prompted by him hearing something from the front of the stand.
     
  25. Witneyellow

    Witneyellow Reservist

    Sadly the result pales into insignificance in view of the later news. RIP Ray.
     
  26. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    RIP Ray.
     
  27. põder

    põder First Year Pro

    RIP Ray. It was a harrowing end to the day to watch the cops trying so hard to keep him alive as the ambulance made its way to the station. It all took far too long.
     
  28. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

  29. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    Walked past him before the game. Praying it's just rumours and he made it
     
  30. bert slater

    bert slater Reservist

    Saw the police trying to help him at station. Gutted. Don't give a toss about the game. RIP.
     
  31. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The Watford football copper has confirmed it on Twitter.
     
  32. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Totally dominated the game. Deserved at least a point.
    Birmingham city centre seemed slightly less run down than usual before the match - but watching the two fat slags fighting outside The Shakespeare as we rehydrated while waiting for our train home, quickly dispelled any thoughts that this toilet of a city might be 'on the up'.
     
  33. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Are you sure it wasn't that piece of scum McClean fighting outside?
     
  34. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    Just watched the game for the first time on MOTD. Thought we'd lost when it was second last on.

    Looked like the red card was harsh, in that I couldn't really distinguish between a roll and a kick out from Pererya. What is I clear we've not had the rub in the last two games.

    Brunt should have had a corner but gave verbal to the officials for a number of seconds - clear booking of which we got last week more than once. Then Maclean clearly stamps on Pererya and gets a yellow. Pulis is a ****. Can't slag off Nyom if he got abused in a racist fashion.

    Sad news about Ray. Everyone should get First Aid/CPR trained btw and AED's should be available everywhere.
     
  35. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team


    You re being a little hysterical .

    The highest league positions we ve ever finished in 135 years of history of the club are 2nd, 9th and 11th.

    We currently sit 10th.

    Just chill the fxck out.
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2016

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