Watford Fc 4-0 Qpr - 05/08/2023

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by tonycotonstache, Jul 30, 2023.

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Gino Pozzo?

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  1. reids

    reids First Team

    It stands for Expected Goals. There's a good article explaining it on the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40699431) but the long and short of it is that it's possible to work out the chance of a shot being scored by comparing it against hundreds of thousands of other shots that were taken at the same spot to work out how many goals were scored compared to how many were missed/saved. So the xG of a penalty is 0.76 xG meaning there's a 76% of a goal being scored from that penalty as that's the overall conversion rate from penalties. Of course these are just averages - some players will be better than others at penalties and same goes for open play situations. The ways of working xG out have developed and now it's possible to work out the chance of a goal taking into lots of factors (number of defenders in the way, height of the shot etc)
     
  2. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Kids I get, it's weird when it's full grown men.
     
  3. reids

    reids First Team

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    There was a fair few players in front of the shot and it was from range, was helped by Begovics positioning being off as well. Can see at the bottom the PSxG (post shot xg - the chance of a goal being scored if the shot is on-target) jumps up considerably so most shots from this range are missed altogether. Martins was a hard header to pull off from that angle and range, was v lucky imo (PSxG: 0.52)
     
  4. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Myself I prefer to live like it's 1983.

    No mobile phones, better music and Watford doing very nicely indeed :cool:.
     
  5. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    xG is short for Ex Girlfriends.

    You'll see some on here are still in love with xG, for them it's all about what might have been. Sadly it means nothing in the real world but talking xG keeps them happy.;)
     
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  6. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Awesome! Thanks @reids . Any chance of some clips of Chaks wonderful cameo? He went on one mazy run right through the middle and looked like it took 3 or 4 to stop him. His spin was sublime. And of course the pass to the ref just to rub it all in as to how easy it all was!
     
  7. Fernandiiito

    Fernandiiito First Year Pro

    Isn't that body count?
     
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  8. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    My son went and told me that we were just going through the motions 2nd half as the match was effectively won. The commentator on sky soccer saturday said the same thing almost word for word, except he added that it's a long season so the players eased off considerably as they were no doubt told to at half time.
    Even in 2nd gear we could have scored another 3 from what I saw on the extended highlights.
     
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  9. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yup, we dialled back completely. VI made the point the players also got more tired, it being the first game and all, and the sun warmed things up quite a bit. No point busting a gut when you're already coasting at 4-0.
     
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  10. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    It's this sloppy attitude which will cost us the title!!
     
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  11. reids

    reids First Team

     
  12. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Really nicely done (by you and Chak).
     
  13. reids

    reids First Team

    Only took 8 clicks of the mouse from start to uploading the video so required very little effort on my part!
     
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  14. You can try to sync the video with Jon Marks' commentary for the goals which is available at wfc.net (click on extras)
     
  15. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Karlan Grant was prolific for them that season with 18 (4 pens), Robinson hit 7, which is OK, but nobody else even managed 5 in the league, even last season we managed 4 players to reach that mark, Louza being one of those, and he only played about half the season. With 2, possibly 3, decent strikers in the squad, Louza, and hopefully a decent amount from elsewhere on the pitch, I think we won't have the same problems in terms of scoring (even if the glory days of Deeney, Ighalo, Vydra and co are long gone!)
     
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  16. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Yep I saw it and still thought we were comfortably the better side but everybody are their entitled to their own views
     
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    And so it begins......
     
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  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I don't fully understand xG and how to properly interpret it, but considering scores of 0xG are practically unheard of, and scores of 3xG and above are pretty rare, I think a gap of a whole 2xG is quite large?
     
  19. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Big thanks
     
  20. King Dev

    King Dev Squad Player

    I wasn’t at the game so I’m a little confused, why is everyone raving about this? His performance looks fine…not much else?
     
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  21. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    clappers gonna clap
     
  22. The Whoosh Magnet

    The Whoosh Magnet Academy Graduate

    I agree, but that Wyscout looked pretty good, where did we sign him from?
     
  23. reids

    reids First Team

    Think it was the fact that he only played 25 mins, so the sheer amount of dribbles in that time is quite impressive. Guess it also shows up more in comparison to the rest of our team who were basically coasting after the game was essentially won, but he was trying to make an impression so "looks better" compared to everyone else.
     
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  24. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    He come on with about half an hour to go and basically took the piss out of them.
     
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  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Typical Jurado performance, lots of nice touches, no goals and no assists :). I thought he did more on the the day than those clips show, it's rather spoilt the memory actually !
     
  26. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    You young technophile, you!
     
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  27. HornetMan

    HornetMan Academy Graduate

    The contrast to last season was there for all to see. Perhaps a less talented squad on paper but they performed very very well.

    QPR were absolutely dreadful- they could still be playing now and our clean sheet would still be intact. They made us look like Manchester City (in fact Begovic was the only one keeping it from being a similar scoreline to nearly every time we played City lol)

    Improvements can be made of course but a very positive 99! minutes to start things off. Plymouth will actually be a harder test- they too won convincingly at home and will be eager to follow that up in their first away game back.
     
  28. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    'Kin' 'ell that takes me back... I imagine GT is quietly gloating, looking down from heaven.
     
  29. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Uninterested.
     
  30. andy wfc

    andy wfc Academy Graduate

    Well, where the hell did that come from? Speaking to fellow fans pre match nobody seemed to have a clue as to how we would perform but perform we did.
    Although QPR were pants you can only beat what is in front of you. Nobody had a bad one and IMO Louza, Ngakia Martens were standout and Georgi what's his name looked like he could be a bit special. Tougher games ahead for sure but it was nice to win and more than that,nice to see the boys actually giving a f**k.
     
  31. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Well don’t bother reading it :)
     
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  32. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    What a ball that was , deserved a goal .
     
  33. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Let’s hope it wasn’t a one off against a poor side .

    We did win 4-0 twice early under Bilic too .

    Tougher tests to come .

    But hopefully the squad have gained a lot of confidence from Saturday.

    Shows how important it is to start games well!
     
  34. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    Without wanting to sound stupid WTF is xG?
     
  35. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The answer's at the top of the page!
     

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