Watford Fc 2-1 Chesterfield - 06/01/2024 )- Fa Cup 3rd Round

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  1. wfc4ever

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    And we were probably unlucky not to a few more points at home earlier in the season so swings and roundabouts!
     
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    It's not possible for performances to be ever improving. There's always going to be an ebb and flow to performances.
     
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    That was great fun, wasn't it? Ignoring the fact that we nearly lost to a non-league team I thought it was a really enjoyable game with great atmosphere. Chesterfield were excellent and probably deserved a replay, but they were quite knackered towards the end. However, if they had scored that header in the 84th minute I think they would have won it.

    Speaking of which - what is it with us and not defending back post corners? Teams have been doing it against us all season with great success, and even Chesterfield nearly won the game that way. Can the club please hire @reids and get this sorted out?

    Fair play to Rajovic, he made a great cameo and you could see that he's so much more comfortable against this level of opposition.
     
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    There is a general trend. A level you expect from your team. I think we’re playing as well as can be expected with the players we have. So Val has pretty much maxed out all he can get from them. But it’s hard keeping them there because they are overachieving,

    How many times has he said “I had to be loud with them” at half time. 3 or 4 times recently? This tells be they are struggling to maintain the level they need to be at in order to win games.

    We’ve ridden our luck in many recent games, somehow stayed in the game and then scored goals out of the blue in order to turn it around. That type of thing just can’t be maintained. Turning around losing positions.

    We’re consistently giving ourselves a mountain to climb in matches. Always having to come back from a goal down.

    I’m not saying it’s not a great way to win. In fact it’s extremely satisfying, but to really believe in it is foolish.
     
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    You really know how to suck the f**king life out of something don’t you. Is everything ok?

    Avoided being laughing stock today, through to the 4th round for the first time in about 5 years, that’s job done. Games like today are pretty much a no win situation, performance doesn’t matter just get the result and get the feck outta there!

    I’m not sure what you’re expecting from the club right now. We’re a mid table side who’ll have good results, bad results, good performances and utterly rancid ones.

    First time in god knows how long we’ve got a side we can get behind, most people enjoy going to watch and some players who actually seem to
    give a bit of a to$$!

    Give it a rest.
     
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    Shout out to Rajovic for making a near post run across his man to reach the cross - something I was beginning to doubt I'd see from us again in my lifetime.

    Hallelujah.
     
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    Couldn't agree more people don't look at who played better they look at who got the result and at the end of the day that was us. This was Chesterfields cup final and you could fairly obviously could see our players in the first half were acting like it was a pre season friendly whilst Chesterfield were covering every blade of grass out there.
     
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    Too late sadly, looking likely I'll be back in the Championship very shortly...and it's not with Watford!
     
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    Just wondering Who ye would all like in the next round. I would love a Maidstone United (A) not terrible distance for an away day and we would be fairly certain of TV money aswell as us through to the next round.
     
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    We were an absolute shambles today and bl**dy lucky to get the win. Lost every 50/50, easily bundled off the ball, corners kicked out of play and foul throws. Utterly embarrassing against essentially non league opposition who should have gone two up shortly after the break.
    Fair play to Chesterfield who tried to have a real go and had a spirit we can only wish for, and whose fans created an awesome atmosphere.
    Wonderful to be patted down on entry and treated like dirt by our own stewards, massive queues for p*ss water and toilets, then the same stewards literally shi**ing themselves when there was an altercation with away fans in the SEJ.
    Today summed up why I stopped the ST a few years back, to55ers in the yellow shirt and to55ers running the club.
     
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    Although I agree with you with the way that there are to55ers are running the club I think we need to take positives out of today. The fact we were 1-0 down and showed that fight and grit in the second half was a positive and I think our performance in the second half was brilliant we held all the ball and absolutely dominated them.
     
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    I know we got burned by a League 1 team early in the season, but they probably underestimated Chesterfield and the quality of team at the top of the National League, judging by recent National League promoted sides, it wouldn't surprise me if there's only one league between us very soon (and that's not an HB1 doomsday prediction of our fate!)
     
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    If you like the way the club is then fine, but telling someone to stop posting just because their views differs from your own is yours is out of order. I will post my views honestly and without bias. If you don’t like it then tough.

    Put me on ignore or simply just don’t read what I post. I don’t post for yout exclusive benefit. Many seem to concur with my observations.

    This forum cannot be just a sanitised place for happy thoughts and nothing else.
     
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    Tbf i think @Chewit meant he was happy with the team and manager rather than the club itself .

    Don’t think anyone will be saying it was a good performance or that we weren’t lucky but there is a more positive feeling about the on pitch situation.
     
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    I'd put money on Maidstone beating us at their place if we played like we did yesterday.
     
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    I’m sure Chewit just wanted to have a go, and I’m also sure he can speak for himself.

    I’ve constantly praised the manager. I’ve also said many times that the team spirit is good and so is the fitness, but that all relates to the work Val has done.

    The majority of players are quite likeable, but they’re just not very good.

    Where I’m not happy is the decisions the owner is making, the watering down of the squad season after season, the lack of investment and the club going in the wrong direction.

    After that first half it wasn’t rapturous applause I was hearing, no it was a chorus of boos. People around me were really angry about what they had witnessed.

    The performance was garbage, but two moments of real quality saved us. Both goals were a thing of beauty, especially the TDB finish.

    If it’s good I will call it. If it’s bad I will call it, but only the good bits are really accepted, and the more critical elements of my posts are what people don’t want to hear, no matter how truthful it is.
     
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    I agree. Had we not scored that late, late winner, we’d have not won at Chesterfield in the replay. Our only chance of getting through was in the first game, which we luckily did.
     
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    You can't leave one argument without starting another nonsense one.
     
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    We were rancid first half, and for all the pleasure and excitement of yet another comeback, that shouldn’t be forgotten.

    I believe we now have to go back 11 matches (Rotherham) to find the last time we led at half-time. That’s certainly something to work on.

    We really believe in making things hard for ourselves. Luckily quite often of late, we’ve dug ourselves out of the hole and gone on to win late, or at least get a point from a losing position. That’s a great quality to have, and nobody can know for certain but personally I think sooner or later the law of averages means we will start losing more matches from bad starts. So clearly VI needs to work more on getting us to hit the ground running more often.

    That said, we DID win, which is great and it’s nice finally being in the 4th round draw again, although I’m not very confident of us being able to beat many of the other teams left in the hat. Let’s see who we get!
     
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    A game like that is not about the performance, it's all about getting those 3 points.
     
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    Agreeing with another poster is now nonsense? Where’s the argument there? Oh, there isn’t one. You just made that up.
     
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    You can’t describe the first half as ‘rancid’ Malts, or else the forum sanitisers will be after you. You have to imply it wasn’t our best half of football this season. I think you might get away with saying that. :D
     
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    Yea pretty much what I said .

    It wasn’t a good performance or game and we had to win it with some rate moments of quality.

    As I say not sure many would disagree with got away with it.

    And no we aren’t technically a great team either but fans mainly like a team that look like they care and don’t give up I find .

    People regularly criticise the team and played though as well - not a closed shop of happy clappers .

    And there is a long thread talking about the owners and how the club is run everyone posts in.
     
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    I simply pointed out that it's not possible for performances to be ever improving in response to you saying "Performances have to be ever improving."
     
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    So why do I get pulled up on it? There is a lack of tolerance for posts that are not 100% positive.

    In this moment of Watford’s history, it cannot be 100% positive. Fans who try to spin it this way are not only fooling themselves, they are doing a disservice to the club. They are accepting a lowering of playing standards meekly without a murmur of discontent. I think that type of fan is actually harmful to the club, as they will accept anything and still clap enthusiastically.
     
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    We would have been favourites to win the reply. Stating that we would not have won and the 1st game was "our only chance" is nonsense. Please take a moment to think about what you're saying as I like your viewpoints a lot of the time, you don't help yourself though.
     
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    I can say what I like. It’s my opinion. I don’t say your opinions are ‘nonsense’. I wouldn’t be so rude.
     
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    I agree with HB1 on this one.

    We're absolute crap and are not getting any better. Years of mediocrity are ahead of us and it's depressing at hell, yet most posters on here are enjoying our current plight. We're far more likely to be relegated than promoted in the next 10 years. Though it's notable that most of these posters don't actually go to the match.

    It's back to the 90s, only this time we have the sterility of modern football, are old farts and don't have a God to save us.
     
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    A laboured somewhat fortunate win over a non league side was actually enjoyable. Flawed individual and team performances everywhere you looked but the spirit was still great and the game wasn't a dirge. So yeah I'll applaud it and hope the next performance is more together.
     
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    "I think the world is flat".

    Is it acceptable to call that nonsense? Yes, yes it is.
     
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    • …..and herein lies the problem. Clapping the players off after that first half performance tells them they can do whatever they like. Luckily the majority of supporter let them know it wasn’t ok.
     
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    You say it all the time by generically implying that people who don't share your view are essentially wrong or unable to see the truth that only you can see.
     
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    It is true we aren’t know for hurling abuse and completely foaming at the mouth over poor performances like some clubs do although those who go to away games might say it’s getting that way with a section of support .

    Not sure anyone was particularly clapping the performance though either - more a sense of relief .

    Most are probably just glad to get through and avoided being the main headline or as you say having a tough replay on TV between away games in the league.
     
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    Well that’s not an opinion is it, so a bad example for you to use in your desperation. What you could have said is something like God doesn’t exist. Can’t be proved either way, it’s just a feeling of belief. Or maybe love doesn’t exist. How can you prove it? No one can, it’s just a feeling from inside that we put that label too.

    Saying Watford will lose is a feeling. So to say it’s nonsense to have that opinion is just foolish of you. Of course we could lose at Chesterfield. How arrogant you must be to think that wouldn’t happen. I happen to think we’d have certainly lost. Doesn’t make it true, it’s just my opinion.
     

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