Southampton 1-1 Watford FC - 10/11/2018

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by nfh, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I keep hearing this word 'penalty'.
    I am not familiar with it.
    Is it a football term?
    Can one be bought from Amazon or elsewhere?
    I've asked Mr IBB and he says they are a regular feature for Palace.
     
  2. Stuey

    Stuey Reservist

    I like it how the MOTD pundits like Shearer kept harking on about Southamptons 'goal but the penalty incident occurred first and Bertrand should have received his marching orders. If that had occurred I doubt that chance would have even happened.
     
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  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Bump....surely by affecting Foster's behaviour he has to have been interfering with play even if he didn't obscure his view and didn't in the end make a play for the ball ? Foster can't in an instant know that he is offside and be expected to ignore him ?
     
  4. miserableoldgit

    miserableoldgit Reservist

    I am going to say this with a straight face and mean it!

    The Austin goal was rightly disallowed - If VAR was in place it might be possible to judge whether Yoshida was trying to head or avoid the ball - but that is clearly moot - we don't have it

    If you were the Ref or the Lino and the ball goes within a foot of another player in an offside position and his head moves towards and then away from the ball what can you do - certainly not be a 100% effective replacement for a technology - i can totally understand why it was not given and think it is 50/50 as to whether, even with technology, it would be right to allow it - what was Yoshida doing standing in the 6 yard box between the sticks if he wasn't trying to influence play?

    Too easy to blame officials

    Now the penalty - utter utter ****s - 100% Penalty - he should never ref again etc etc
     
  5. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    And Bournemouth!
     
  6. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I suspect Deolofeu was booked for persistent dissent. This was the 3rd or 5th time - and he did another later
     
  7. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Clubs buy certain players based on the fact that they come with a career-long subscription to penalty kicks weekly. Unfortunately Gino will not pay the inflated price tag for these players.
     
  8. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Sorry. I misunderstood your earlier comment when you said 'why should Watford have to suffer this novice ref?'.

    I took that to mean you were displeased about him officiating yesterday.

    Sorry.
     
  9. ruisliphorn

    ruisliphorn Academy Graduate

    I don't get why people say the refereeing mistakes even themselves out. If the penalty is given - regardless of whether it is scored or not or whether the second yellow is given or not - all of the game after that is different and the Austin shot doesn't even happen. It is a sliding doors moment.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Come on RC, the simplest answer usually explains any situation. Aliens, accompanied by Elvis riding unicorns, switched all the drinks when you weren't looking.
     
  11. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    You have completely nailed it regarding both the definite penalty and the disallowed goal. I fully understand the Saints frustration but despite what most pundits say Yoshida was close enough to both Foster and crucially the flight of the ball to influence play. Yoshida's movement is immaterial as he is directly in Foster's eyeline. It's all over now of course but Hughes and Austin will be disciplined for sure.
     
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  12. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    We could just concentrate upon the serious task of drinking without the distraction of conversation.
     
  13. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Lked for "ancestral Hornland". Definitely I will use that one at sometime.
     
  14. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Yes - quite a heartwarming thought.
     
  15. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Liked
     
  16. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Lately he's been acting mighty strange, to me it seems his attitude has changed, and suddenly he just don't seem the same instead of playing all those silly games.
     
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  17. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Went to the Australian Pink Floyd concert last night.

    Three of us set the security alarm off but were waved through.

    I think we can close the can of Coke casebook.
     
  18. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Would think that's the least likeliest explanation. Not since Brexiters have the monopoly on unicorms.
     
  19. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    A species native to Bournemouth although can on occasion be spotted in the Anerley area of south London during the Zaha migrating season.
     
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  20. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    4th?
     
  21. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I bet she smuggled in a plastic straw as well - that woman has got a lot to answer for
     
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  22. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    After Brexit, we’ll be able to take cans anywhere we like.
     
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  23. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Your counting - or typing - is better than mine!
     
  24. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    We all had high hopes as we set off to St Mary's yesterday hoping it would be one of these days we'd talk about happily for weeks to come, one of the happiest days of our lives in fact. It cost quite a lot of money to go in, and we were heavily segregated into us and them. Shocking weather and we all said goodbye blue sky for the duration of the match. The penalty incident left me and my friends feeling comfortably numb, echoes of previous controversial incidents that often seem to go against us. But after their 'goal' was disallowed at 0-1, there were encouraging signs of us coming back to life and our superior fitness enabled our boys to run like hell. A satisfactory result all told, and a good excuse to have a cigar to celerate at full time.
     
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  25. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Does anyone think that if the penalty had been awarded, and Bertrand sent off, the Austin "goal" would never have happened?
     
  26. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    I have not seen or read anything about the time when Deolofeu decided to just lie down in the centre circle claiming being elbowed. Does anyone have any detail on this?
     
  27. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    It clearly would not have happened in the same way, as Bertrand was part of the move.
     
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  28. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    In the old days when there were no mobile phones, satnavs or avocados, there's no question that Soton's second would have been disallowed. If an attacker was in an offside position, the goal was offside. As Bill Shankley once said, "if he's not interfering with play, what's he doing on the pitch?"

    The present interpretation of the offside law is far too subjective and should be abandoned
     
  29. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Fair enough. Just hadn't seen anyone on this thread commenting on this point, that's all.

    :rolleyes:
     
  30. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He needs to realise that if he keeps up yesterday's level of performance, he won't be a guaranteed starter, we've probably got at least another 2 can play that game.
     
  31. Hazy detail only - I do remember him copping an elbow in the neck when challenging for the ball, but wouldn't say that he "decided to lie down", it was more a case of being dropped by the blow, which the ref didn't appear to notice.

    GD did seem to spend a lot of the match crying to the ref about various perceived injustices against him, which makes me wonder if the English game is just too physical for him. Maybe it's time for Troy to take him into a quiet corner and tell him to man up?
     
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  32. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It was a complete non-event from the replays. Pathetic for him to be whining so long about it after the incident.
     
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  33. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    It may of been mentioned already but Troy just keeps getting g better. Huw often do you see a Premiership footballer mingle so much with fans?

    Giving his shirt and boots away, usually the first to clap the fans and last to leave the pitch.

    If or when he ever does leave, he has certainly made a mark on this football club. The man we got from Walsall has come far. Yes he has off days and last season he was undoubtedly unfit, but credit to him for turning it all around.

    We have seen many stars at this club, Cotton, Blisset, Mooney and Chamberlain. But Troy is definitely one the younger fans will remember in years to come.
     
  34. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    I wonder if it would be possible to rate the comments on here on some sort of a wildness (high numbers)/thoughtfulness(low numbers) scale. Then draw a line graph with said scale on the Y axis and time along the X. This is so far just a 'thought experiment', but I want to make it clear I'm far too lazy to actually do it.
    I suspect the line would steadily descend, as people bit by bit sleep on it or revert to default by sniping at each other or just generally lose concentration.
    On the matter of random thoughts:
    The ref didn't have a good game, but there are linesmen out there, as well. Was the disallowed goal decision initiated by the lino and, if so, should the ref be blamed for assuming the lino was in a better position and therefore backing him up? No excuses for the penalty, though. He was 'mugged' by 2 or 3 simulations by Soton players, but I didn't see him get much else obviously wrong.
    Why all this talk about second yellow card for (Bertrand?) ? scything a man down by taking both Chalobah's legs from under him before getting the ball, while Chal is 10 m out, plumb in front of goal with just the keeper to beat - surely that's a straight red? (Maybe that's why the ref chickened out - double jeopardy makes it too big a call).
    Chalobah was, sadly, well off the pace. This presents a big problem: To get him back to 'match fitness' he must play game-time, but he presents a liability at the moment. Vicious circle.
    We missed Capoue.
    The weather may well have been quite a leveller, it was very wet and quite windy, too.
    However, I think maybe Mark Hughes, (although I acknowledge how bitter, angry and biased he generally is), may well have done his homework and his planning on neutralizing Watford's midfield and got it broadly right. Unfashionable thought, probably.
    Will Hughes generally dissed on this thread - was he not limping when he was called off early?
    Delefeu must, if he is to be thought of as a really good player, reconsider his finishing - both the technique and approach. Ditto final ball. His pace and dribbling skills generate plenty of chances but mostly they are squandered.
    I'm not in the write-Marriappa-off camp: I thought he had a good game. I know he has some limitations so I better put my tin hat on for comments on here.
    Also played well = Success, Foster and, particularly, Deeney. I didn't think Doucoure was all that bad, either.
     
  35. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Apology accepted.
     

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