Sochi 2014 - Winter Olympics

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by ChrisG, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    With less than a month to it begins I thought I'd start a thread on this.

    I've always enjoyed the winter olympics and I'm really looking forward to it this time around. Let the countdown begin.
     
  2. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I love the World Cup and European Championships and enjoy the summer and winter Olympics, some more than others - so why am I hoping that Brazil won't be ready in time, that it won't snow in Sochi and that the whole Qatar thing will fall on its face and cause massive disruption to the football schedule across the world? Am I becoming an overpolitical miserabilist, or just somebody on the side of truth and justice?
     
  3. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    overpolitical miserabilist definitely.


    I always enjoy the bobsleigh & Skeleton as well as the Ski jumping. Nothing will ever come close to Calgary 88 however.
    [video=youtube;A7MmJIy0bjo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7MmJIy0bjo[/video]
     
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    From what I've heard GB have quite a few medal chances in various events which might increase interest?
     
  5. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    There is a good chance for a few medals this year. I'm really hoping GB Bobsleigh get on the podium somewhere this year, the Men's team were only 0.07 of the gold at the worlds last months. I may be slightly biased towards them as my old man is the team performance director. He is also a Hornet.
     
  6. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

  7. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    That would be the man in question.
     
  8. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I did something!! :mengoal:
     
  9. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    The Winter Olympics is bull****. These are pastimes, not sports.
     
  10. Birdydoug

    Birdydoug The Flying Scotsman

    I like curling.
     
  11. Timbers

    Timbers Apeman

    I bet WADA love the snow boarding competitors, must keep them busy for a couple of years!
     
  12. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Sadly the Saudis are going to make it a blood bath.
     
  13. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    Starts this week and I couldn't be more excited.
     
  14. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    I'm probably not quite as enthusiastic as you ChrisG, but I'm also looking forward to the games. I'm just in awe of the work some of these people have to put in to be competitive. Particularly so for the British who normally have to contend with lesser training facilities, although I understand that has improved over the past few years. I saw the little tarmac/rail track (near Bath) that our guys/girls have to train on for the luge/ skeleton (whatever it's called), yet they are some of the best in the world.
     
  15. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    Correct, it is near Bath. The work they put in is outstanding.

    Here are a few links to hopefully get a few more as excited as I am.
    http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/10953952.Sochi_preparations__in_good_shape_/

    http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/10976023.Team_GB_to_head_to_Sochi_in_confident_mood/

    http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/10927490.In_pursuit_of_an_Olympic_medal/
     
  16. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Unfortunately we simply are not a true alpine country or have the climate for developing winter sports. These Games are treated as the inferior relation of the Summer Games which is a real shame. It simply is not the case in other countries such as Norway.

    The attitude of the BBC reflects this in hosting the programmes on BBC2. In order to watch any hockey before the final one will have to use the red button.

    It is a real shame because these sports are some of the fastest and hence dangerous on the planet. Ice hockey is one of the greatest of team sports, bobsleighing and hurtling down a ramp at fifty miles an hour into the air requires immense courage. Biathlon and long track speed skating have some of the greatest athletes in the world in those disciplines and then there is the artistry in the skating usually from the Russians.

    Personally I do not care that much for some of the newer entries into the games such as snowboarding and short track speed skating.

    Hope it all goes off smoothly although the costs of the Games and their effect on the local community need to be questioned. Why they couldn't have held it in somewhere like Perm or Chelyabinsk I have no idea. Both rinks for example will be superfluous white elephants after the Games as Sochi does not even have a hockey team.

    Some of the great athletes/moments from the Winter Games. The great Ole Einar Bjorndalen:

    [video=youtube;1Ppg815nARM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ppg815nARM[/video]
     
  17. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    A huge hero in Finland back in the day the very young Martti Nykanen:

    [video=youtube;RTJW1L8kdTU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJW1L8kdTU[/video]
     
  18. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The politically charged 1980 Games with five times gold medallist American Eric Heiden:

    [video=youtube;-MlOzjTvths]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MlOzjTvths[/video]
     
  19. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The team I grew up watching in 1988 and 1992 that took ice hockey to new heights the mighty Red Machine:

    [video=youtube;0QoOArMQ6YY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QoOArMQ6YY[/video]
     
  20. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    One of the great moments in British sport watched by over twenty million people in 1984:

    [video=youtube;KcCj0xfO3H8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcCj0xfO3H8[/video]
     
  21. HelsinkiHorn

    HelsinkiHorn Academy Graduate

    Ice Hockey will be the sport to watch (ok I'm biased I live in Finland) No team GB but all the NHL players (ie. best) will be there. Russia will be expected to perform big on home ice. Canada and Sweden will be the other favorites for a medal. Watch too out for Finland who regularly sneak into the medals at the expense of bigger nations.

    Finn player to watch: the legend Teemu Selänne - its his 6th Olympics! he's now 43 still scoring in the NHL and has scored the most points ever in Olympic hockey (37 goals+assists).
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm interested in the heavyweight snowball fighting. Should be awesome.

    We've also got some world class snowman makers this year, so could get amongst the medals. Shame that our snow woman makers are still very much the poor relation.

    Will also like to see which of the athletes can write a whole Shakespearian sonnet in the snow in one go. The world record of "Shall I compare thee to a..." is long overdue to be broken.

    Ritchie Neville from Five looks a good bet for at least a Bronze for The Jump.
     
  23. HelsinkiHorn

    HelsinkiHorn Academy Graduate

    3/10
     
  24. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    You just can't help yourself can you Moog; it would not be so bad if you were funny, which to be fair you quite often used to be, but now you just take the **** for the sake of it, very sad :dismay:
     
  25. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Think you should stand in the corner moog and think about what you have done.
     
  26. YouOrns

    YouOrns Reservist

    The whole selection policy for the GB's winter olympic squad, and the BOA in general is a joke.

    One of our top ski cross racers Emily Sarsfield has not been selected despite being her 34th ranking. This apparently isn't a "credible" achievement. Instead we're sending the likes of Chemmy Allcott, who's bound to get an injury as soon as she gets on a chair lift - some credible performance that'll be.

    We're punching above our weight in alpine sports, but we're being held back by an organisation who's top dogs who have no real knowledge of the sport today.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-olympics/25882543
     
  27. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    With Ski Cross being a fairly new Winter Olympic sport and no UK program for it it was always going to be tough for her to gain a place at the games. She was only invited by default anyways as other competitors pulled out. Chemmy Alcott's inclusion on the Ski program also led to another guy not getting a call up for the downhall team. Obviously they believe in Chemmy's ability to include her at the expense of others that may not have as much of a chance of her at getting a decent result. Obviously it is heartbreaking for those that don't make it but there are other reasons that contribute to this too.

    A lot of work does go into the selection program but like any sport, there are chances of you not making the final cut.
     
  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    As you're not on my ignore list, I will do so, for you.
     
  29. YouOrns

    YouOrns Reservist

    I know it was only a default selection in the first place but it's either her or nothing. She's still a great skier and would have put everything into it. To give our place up to "more credible" athletes from other nations just doesn't seem right when we have someone like Sarsfield ready to go!

    Dougie Crawford and TJ Baldwin don't make the cut as Chemmy is going. I think she's been selected purely for publicity and to be the 'face' of British Alpine skiing. I'll be eating my words if she does well, let alone finishes a race. She couldn't even do a fitness test for selection!

    I've been into ski racing for a few years now, and working as a coach I've realised even more so how shoddy the organisation is in failing to recognise or utilise young talent.
     
  30. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    And with funds for the Winter Olympics much less than those of the Summer ones resources were used better elsewhere where there was more of a chance.

    You mention you work as a coach, have you had any involvement of the selection programme or any clue of it? I don't mean to sound patronising so I apologise if I do. Team GB's selection process and talent/recruit programme is not shoddy at all. I may be slightly biased on this front but the effort, time and commitment put into it is huge and very demanding, even for the coaches and selection panels.
     
  31. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Saku Koivu declined the invitation which is a shame. I think it is also rather disappointing that more teams were not allowed to compete.

    Denmark and Germany in particular were unfairly penalized for not being able to field their NHL'ers in the qualification groups. Four groups of four would have been perfectly fine.

    The NHL has far too much influence on hockey in general. They are still playing games when the players should be in Sochi practicing together. It's amazing that while all other sports want their best athletes representing their discipline at Olympiads the NHL are threatening to not allow players to participate in 2018. They cannot allow players to participate for a measly three weeks when they already play a overly long bloated season of eighty games plus.

    Hopefully the large numbers of Europeans who are part of the NHLPA put their foot down over this.

    Should be interesting to see how the North Americans adapt to the bigger standard Olympic ice which allows more expression of skill than the usual chase and dump of the North American game. It was ridiculous that Vancouver was allowed to use the smaller ice when all other previous Olympic's have had the standard bigger ice.

    Johan Franzen has been replaced by his fellow team mate Gustav Nyquist and Russia are hoping for Pavel Datsyuk to recover in time.
     
  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm in Russia right now and it's a dour, cold, depressed version of the buzz which was around in London 2012.
     
  33. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I'd agree. In comparison to the Summer selection panel which did have one or two controversial choices the bodies governing winter sports here need a firm kick up the backside. Ice Hockey UK for example are a joke. We could quite easily become a pretty good hockey country again if the vision and expertise was applied in a concerted fashion. Our only gold in hockey was back in 1936.Most of the team are supposed to be Canadians but nearly all were brought up here and learnt their hockey in Canada while the Canadians fielded a couple of Briton's in their side.

    It's rather a shame considering we made such an initial impression in winter sports. The skip of the women's curling team for example won't be allowed to play in the World Championships.

    Chemmy is a rather nice Home Counties girl but she really has underperformed from her initial promise.
    [video=youtube;H7tuxBRn1zg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7tuxBRn1zg[/video]
     
  34. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Are you really Moog ? Winter Olympiads never do have the same buzz as the Summer version unfortunately. Avoid anyone with a veil over the face or with bumps in the wrong places.....;)
     
  35. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm in Moscow, but there are still people with lanyards roaming around like stray cats and everyone asking you if you're a winter Olympian, when they realise you're not Russian.
     

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