Newcastle United 1-1 Watford FC - 31/08/2019

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Pob, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Relegation would totally **** us more than most teams due to our whole five year contract regime.
     
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  2. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

    How about Paul Chuckle then?
     
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  3. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    Not in this moment, no.
     
  4. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    You're really trying everything to make your point. Almost self fulfilling prophecy!

    If in your judgement JG should be sacked so be it, I hear you, but currently it does not look like the club agree.

    So it just begs this question. Who should we be more reliant on for taking the correct footballing decision about JG. Moog or Gino Pozzo?
     
  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Given the wreckage of a defence Pozzo has left the club with, I vote Moog.
     
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  6. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    I would agree. Gino has never been slow to make a difficult decision. He has got more invested in the club then anyone. It doesn’t look he is ready to make that decision, but I guess we will know very shortly. If he hasn’t pulled the trigger by Monday/ Tuesday then Javi will presumably carry on at least for the short-term. It may partly depend on what managers are available.
     
  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    We'd just have to hope someone wants the likes of Succes and guess GD and Doucouré would be off ASAP?

    How many are on long term contracts now?

    Our squad is pretty aged so cannot be too many...
     
  8. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I’ve always enjoyed your posts but the statement that you won’t go again until Gracia is gone is pathetic and juvenile. This is a coach that helped us to our best finish since Taylor and got us to a cup final. Out of all the things said on here over the last couple of weeks, that is the most disappointing
     
  9. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The thing is Jumbo Pereyra barely played in the Copa America. One half only. Sarr played around 400 minutes. He probably does need more of a rest and easing in.
     
  10. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    It really is an ugly thing when fans turn on a manager and team.
     
  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Imo? Me.
     
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  12. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Point taken. However Mane is busy starting for Liverpool and numerous World Cup players were thrown straight in last season? In suspect Gracia doesn’t fancy him in the same way Peneranda can’t get a look in even as an occasional sub.
     
  13. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    It's pretty poor to target one player constantly. The entire team were at fault for it. From a poor corner from Cleverley and players being too far forward. To not reacting to the secondary ball. To not having the wit to stop the ball carrier running 50 yards into our half. They were all running away from him. And then while Femenia might have done more to try and block the cross the lack of communication between Dawson and Kabasele in going for the same ball and no one picking up Schar as a result.
     
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  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I agree. I wont be reading YK posts until Gracia is gone.
     
  15. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Well if he does not he won't be around as a manager long regardless of results. Gino bought Sarr for several reasons. One it is to help the team score more goals. Two the player has great potential and if he fulfils it like Richarlison he will be off for double the money be it one season only.

    Mitigating factors might be Sarr is carrying a niggle we do not know about and the fact he does need settling in whereas Mane is a seasoned PL player. I would hope that we settle on a countering system 5-3-2/ 3-4-3 ASAP with Sarr and Delofeu able to stretch defences and relieve pressure by the simple matter of a long pass knocked down the flanks. Pereyra or Hughes in their best position centrally behind either Gray or Success.
     
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  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Well Cathcart and Dawson have another 4 years to go. That will be high wages if we can’t bounce straight back. Success another 4 years. Prodl another 2 years. Okaka and Zeegelaar another 2 years.

    None of those will be of any interest to other teams so we are stuck with them.
     
  17. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    As I mentioned on another thread, there may be a large compensation fork out if they get rid of him that soon s well. So they may not rush it.
     
  18. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I look back fondly at the flag waving at 0-6. More comforting times.
     
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  19. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Too soon m8 :(

    Don't most player contracts for non-top 6™ sides have relegation clauses etc?
     
  20. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Why is he even in the first team??
     
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  21. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    No it isn't. It's a choice. You may have enjoyed the cup final disgrace but I'd imagine there were a few people shelling out over a hundred notes who didn't. Equally, it costs hundreds to go to these distant away games only for a pathetic performance.

    We've been **** for months. When that happens, the paying public will start to stay away. Obviously after the Arsenal game as most of our thicko fan base support them.
     
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  22. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Although not in charge of transfers, Gracia is still involved so I’m guessing he wanted a winger so we can play a different way. If Sarr is still being consistently left out in a few weeks, presuming Gracia is still here, then you may have a point.
     
  23. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    What a bizarre post. He has been to both away games. Are you going to force the bloke to travel to Wolves and Man City, otherwise you deem him pathetic?
     
  24. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Excuse excuse excuse.

    Is it OK to suggest that Gracia isn't playing Sarr and ignoring Quina and Penaranda because he's ******* lost it?

    We had some bloke on here claiming that they were all **** against Coventry when every single other person said they were great.

    The cult of Gracia isn't dead yet.
     
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  25. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

  26. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    So every time we have a bad period we just refuse to go? I know we lost the final but he did something only one other manager had done in our history and now we’re refusing to go! Sorry, but that’s pathetic.
     
  27. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    From the Geordies:

    Interstingly, they're not mentioning Chalobah's dive nor making much about Hayden's 'penalty'. They also mention that they could have been 0-2 within 8 minutes.
     
  28. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    One thing about Penaranda and him not playing a part this season; he had “a rupture of the femoral biceps of the left leg” when away with the Venezuelan team so wasn't going to be rushed back into the side because of that. I don't know if it required surgery but it would definitely have hampered his pre-season training as it happened in June.
     
  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Some of our fans clearly want the club to progress in the manner that the owners have said. Watching your team get ****ed every week and paying for the privilege stops being fun after a while.
     
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  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    No, obviously not, but to give up on going because you don’t like the manager is ridiculous. I thought most of us supported the team not an individual.
     
  31. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Yep, the first half time wasting was disgusting and should lead to an automatic dismissal for Gracia.

    An embarrassment.
     
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  32. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Yesterday was a draw
     
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  33. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    We do not know what the medical situation of the players are. My preferred line up would be to have Penaranda and Quina/Welbeck on the bench because they can pull something out of the bag and Penaranda needs to get fitter and he will never achieve it by playing a few minutes here or there. His attitude looks a lot better as well as if he has realized he has let himself drift over the last two seasons. I would have liked to see Sarr come on and to have seen Success on earlier as well. Some managers who lack personal input into transfers can be reluctant to play players who have been brought in by the sporting director. Again there is only one winner in that case. I am sure Sarr will be integrated into the squad better and fitter over his next two week mini pre season. It's a great time for the squad to look at the mess of the start and to buck up their ideas, fitness and collective responsibility and for Gracia and his team to review their tactics. This season is now first and foremost a relegation scrap. Forget top ten at present or anything else.
     
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  34. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I assume you went to Everton and Newcastle?
     
  35. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    For sure. But he didn’t get a look in last season either, even as a sub when Success was utterly hopeless.
     

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