[NOT HAPPENING] Kieran Gibbs

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  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I fully accept that, if a referee gives a decision, no matter how soft it is, he is unlikely to overturn it. However, it does depend on how assertive the fourth official is.

    The referee will never see the video replay himself so he will have to rely on the fourth official telling him in no uncertain terms he got that wrong.

    I think the best example of how it could work is given in cricket. There are certain criteria that has to be met before a decision is overturned. If there is any doubt then the original decision has to be upheld.

    The penalty Mike Dean he gave against Arsenal for West Brom would have been interesting. Dean is very arrogant and would need a very strong official on VAR telling him he got that wrong. In this instance, it's not really opinion. There are guidelines giving a penalty for handball. None of these were met, so it would have been an easy decision to overturn it. But how embarrassing would it be for Dean to be told you have to reverse your penalty award. How would the home fans react?

    However, with VAR in the background I think referees would not be quite so ready to give a big decision. I think someone like Mike Dean would hate to be shown up by VAR, so he wouldn't give West Brom a penalty in the first place.

    VAR would be a measure which will keep referees in check.
     
    hornetboy1, Jan 2, 2018
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  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Probably with anger at the decision being reversed howling abuse at the 4th official who quite correctly overturns the decision and instead of Arsenal/Wenger being peeved off we'd have WBA players surrounding the officials and Pardew in trouble for comments after the game.

    I'd like to think decisions (particularly soft ones like that penalty) would be accepted but not sure be at first - even more so when the Baggies are fighting for every point.

    It works in rugby and cricket because generally any decision is accepted regardless.

    In the Confederations Cup the ref went to the sidelines and watch incidents on a screen which didn't seem to work so I agree it would have to be some sort of private dialogue between ref and man in the stands.
     
    wfc4ever, Jan 2, 2018
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  3. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I don’t know enough about rugby but I would say that the reason it works in cricket (and tennis, for that matter) is that there’s not really room for debate: it’s either LBW or not, or the batsman either nicked it or not. The only issue really is a catch taken very close to the ground which tends on the whole not to be given, to the disadvantage of the fielding side.

    Are the laws of football quite as clear-cut, I wonder? @zztop posted about this on another thread a propos of the Chambers handball:
    http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/the-standard-of-refereeing.53926/
     
    Keighley, Jan 2, 2018
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  4. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Apparently the referee still has the option of viewing the replay himself.

    http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/dec/...up-third-round-brighton-crystal-palace-071217

    I don't think reversing decisions will be the end of the world for referees. Better that than days of being called out in the press for making a howler.
     
    UEA_Hornet, Jan 2, 2018
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  5. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Can we close this thread as it has nothing to do with the title
     
    Knight GT, Jan 2, 2018
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  6. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    VAR might have ruled Citys goal offside last night
     
    Hairyfrog, Jan 3, 2018
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  7. BusheyOrn

    BusheyOrn Reservist

    And Swansea's first.....
     
    BusheyOrn, Jan 3, 2018
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