[RUMOUR] Javi Gracia

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by sdc_watford, May 16, 2019.

  1. sdc_watford

    sdc_watford First Year Pro

  2. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

  3. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Complete tosh. Move on
     
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Please be true.
     
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  5. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun First Year Pro

    Silva finished higher, take him
     
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  6. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes First Year Pro

    Can’t see him going, you only get 1 year at Chelsea so would t be able to improve his CV much , they can’t transfer so won’t get any better next year and probably won’t compete for top 2

    Only reason to go would be 1 year massive salary and a massive payoff when you get sacked
     
  7. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    What about a swap deal with Hazard coming the other way
     
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  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Well he and Chelsea can both say they lost 6-0 to Man City and to them in a final ..
     
  9. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Academy Graduate

    Frank Lampard of Frank Lampard's Derby County has been linked pretty heavily with the job too. Even though he's had a promising start to his managerial career, this is exactly the kind of dumb **** that Chelsea would do
     
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  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Why is it dumb? Young English manager, who has started his career well and has history at the club. Pair that with the fact they have a transfer ban which almost certainly means they will need to play more youth at times - I’d say he’s far more in-tune with that than Sarri.

    Sarri was the start of the decline in interest in the Chelsea job IMO. The top managers don’t want it as they see how they get treated. And with the question marks over Abramovich at the club, it’s not a surprise.

    Zola - now that’s the kind of dumb **** they would do and shouldn’t.
     
  11. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Academy Graduate

    Whoever manages Chelsea next season has a big job on their hands, probably too big for such a rookie. If I were Lampard I wouldn't take that job for a few years at least, and I have close family members from that part of the world who'd be very nervous if he took over, not least because they'd hate it if it is too big a job for him

    Hadn't really thought about the Chelsea job not being as attractive as it used to be, sadly that may put Gracia in the mix though if it's not Lampard
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Funnily enough I think Lampard might be a great appointment for them. It will be less attractive to bigger names given the ownership and transfer ban, appointing him would buy them some goodwill and time with the fan base and he will be great working with the younger players. From his point of view, it would have come very early but how confident would he be that the offer will come later in his career ? Plus he gets in there before Terry, or maybe with Terry as his #2 ?
     
  13. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Academy Graduate

    Well that would certainly add some extra spice to the play-off final! Seriously though, I think many fans would see through it, and he'll definitely be linked with the job any time it's available in future so I don't think there's any hurry at all for him
     
  14. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I have a feeling chelsea's sights are set a little higher than a world record cup final loser.
     
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  15. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    But I don’t know how much I buy all this ‘he’s a rookie’ talk these days. He is - but so was Zidane. So was Guardiola. He’s gone away, admittedly only for a year, and done well. He will know people at the club as well. He’d do well in their current circumstances - as long as he was given more than a year and a chance to build. Chelsea fans I think May need to accept next year and maybe even the one after will be about keeping their powder dry and building something again, not winning the PL.
     
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Well if he fails in his next 2 jobs he won't be linked in the future ! I happen to think he's a pretty smart and honest guy and will become a great success as a coach. Lot's of empathy, will understand how to get the best from indvividuals. I'm less convinced that Terry will be a successful coach. A bit like, Tony Adams, a great leader on the pitch but thick as ****, not clever enough to adapt to management. We shall see.....
     
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  17. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Exactly. What's the Derby manager from 1903 up to these days? At least he was first to the record. Javi couldn't even manage that.
     
  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Like bringing Mário Zagallo out of retirement?

    That way they'd have a record world cup final loser.
     
  19. dynamo380

    dynamo380 Reservist

    In fairness I'm not sure Zidane and pep are the best comparisons to make in regards to rookie coaches. Given the players, money, infrastructure and competition that Barcelona and real Madrid have its hard for them to really fail as such. Plus they were groomed for the job for a number of years via managing the respective reserve sides. It's a very different scenario at Chelsea and I'm not sure that 'knowing the club' will be of much help to a rookie.

    And let's be honest lampard hasn't set the world alight at derby - taking one of the traditionally better championship teams who perennially finish in and around the playoffs to the playoffs.
     
  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Sorry, but that’s easily pulled apart. Chelsea have competed at the top table for a number of years. Their infrastructure is sound, the finances have been beyond good, they’ve been successful. Plenty of domestic cups, one EL, one CL and a runners up to boot.

    Zidane and Guardiola were moulded for those jobs through doing the reserve sides for a number of years you say?

    Zidane did 2 years and Guardiola 1 year.
    Derby do perennially get to the playoffs, you’re right. But they had the divisions top scorer last season and sold him - to be replaced by Martyn Waghorn and some guy from P’boro. He’s got decent young lads in on loan, as well as promoting a few kids from within. Keeping them at the same level has been a better and harder job than it appears.

    The comparison between him and the people I mentioned is quite valid IMO.
     
  21. dynamo380

    dynamo380 Reservist

    We will just have to agree to disagree. I just don't think that given the current situation at Chelsea, that Zidane and pep are suitable comparisons to validate an inexperienced manager. Chelsea isnt comparable to the two Spanish giants.
     

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