Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2013-14

Hello again everyone. Firstly, I have to admit, a real shame for me personally as the Royals endured a … sorry to say deserved relegation. But things are still positive our end, never mind ... and to the contrary, after last season’s wonders you guys must have your boots filled with confidence, and are surely strong candidates to go up this year.




Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2013-14
organized by Sunderland’s Black Cat Chat, Reading's RR, and TOTT forums

The game that I've titled is already well established, several seasons running now. But this season we’re going big time – should be over 30 individual club forums involved. The Sunderland ‘Black Cat Chat’ forum does the real work all during the season. I am the representative from the Reading’s Royals Rendezvous, and we also have had a strong Liverpool group too helping out too. Talk of the Terrace are also going to be a point of reference for all this coming season.

And it’s dead easy! You simply guess ONCE (now!) what you think will be the final league positions for the Premier League 2013-14 (that’s all teams, in order 1st to 20th), leave them on this thread, and then sit back and enjoy! Nothing more!!

Why the attraction of all this you may well ask?! Well, it’s now some time since we had the days of the BBC 606 fans forum service – most will remember it closed in June 2011, and still missed despite the fact we sometimes went over the top – so this is an ideal way to keep us all together still.

This game will initially take you a couple of minutes, and then enjoy without having to make updates at all, all season. Right, below are the current 20 Premier teams in alphabetical order – simply copy these onto your PC and re-arrange them in your finishing order come the end of the 2013-14 season:

Arsenal
Aston Villa
Cardiff City
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Fulham
Hull City
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
Newcastle United
Norwich City
Southampton
Stoke City
Sunderland
Swansea City
Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United





According to your choices you score lots of, or better still few, points. And how do you score points?
Scoring is as follows:
For each team you score one point for each place away from its predicted position. Example - if you predict Sunderland to finish 9th and they finish 9th, you score 0 points (excellent predicting). If they finish 13th you score 4 points or if they finish 7th you score 2 points. Therefore, the nearer you get to the exact position and have less points mounting up the better. I will endeavour to make updates at the beginning of every month during the season out of interest, but all leaderboards during the season are given for interest.
IMPORTANT! - The big winners are the people who have LEAST points after the final game has been played.


The table positions won’t change position so much in the later stages of the season so … how can we maintain interest to the end you might be thinking?! Well, this season we have MONTHLY rewards for those in the top positions! That’s points rewards for the highest positions at the end of every month (calculating from the REAL table on the 31st at 11.59pm!!).
Here's the idea:
1st spot - take off 5 bonus points from score, so score dips even lower / 2nd - take off 4 bonus points / 3rd - take off 3 bonus points / 4th - take off 2 bonus points / 5th - take off 1 bonus point
Bonus Points are for the most successful - Positions 1 to 5 – and includes tied points so there may well be far more than 5 people involved. Their position for the deduction will be based on their (true) teams' score, not taking any previous deductions into account which you do keep all season of course on your overall total .


Also, where forums have an entry of a minimum of five people there will be a ‘board average’ too, thus you’ll be able to see how your forum copes against many of the others. I believe it’s an average set against a yardstick of averages and not a simple add up and divide, but the order of forums will always be correct. We’ll also have some notable entries from media, press and public figures to spice it up too. And any individual can enter too, without being affiliated to any football forum, no problem there, in which case go to Royals Rendezvous in "Rivals, but Friends" where just in this section any non-registered member is able to post. But over 90% of entries will probably come from well-known sites like yours ... which is what I encourage.



Just one plea - Please use the team names given above, it's a pain in the a**e translating entries from WBA or W.B.A., or putting Manure or Chelski or worse etc, so that the Sunderland automatic process stands some chance. Although you may know who the **** are, the computer doesn't! Thanks!!


And enjoy it! But think hard before committing pen to paper, this selection will last you all season!! (If you change opinion and ideas, then please make a new post and not simply edit, in case I don't get to read your change).
ALL entries in before kick-off day in the Premier which is 17th AUGUST 2013 (and if possible don't leave it to the final day, it will strangle us!!!).


daib0

 

It’s dead easy, as I said. Here’s my entry …

Manchester City
Chelsea
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool
Arsenal
West Ham United
West Bromwich Albion
Everton
Sunderland
Newcastle United
Fulham
Stoke City
Norwich City
Swansea City
Cardiff City
Crystal Palace
Hull City
Southampton
Aston Villa


Your post will look like this, but with your order. Please copy and paste the teams so the spelling is similar, this is a plea from the organizers!

Please don’t get offended with my selection, whether a team too high or too low, every place has to be occupied with a team, it’s never personal!


OK, get them coming in lads … we do all the rest! Plenty of time yet, the premier season doesn’t start till the 17th August!!


But we’ve already started - already nearly 100 guesses in from a dozen club forums in a couple of days … looking most promising.
Top entries so far are from –

HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 19
NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 14
FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 12
BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 10
READING – Royals Rendezvous 9
CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5
Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 4
BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 3


PS - if I have placed this topic in the wrong section, then of course please transfer it to where best it should be ...

 

You've piqued my interest.

Manchester United
Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham United
Swansea City
Everton
Sunderland
Southampton
Cardiff City
West Bromwich Albion
Fulham
Stoke City
Newcastle United
Hull City
Aston Villa
Norwich City
Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
Everton
Arsenal
Liverpool
West Bromwich Albion
Fulham
Norwich City
Newcastle United
West Ham United
Swansea City
Sunderland
Aston Villa
Stoke City
Southampton
Cardiff City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

Cheers guys, just a bit of fun. But it's really taking off, already over 100 entries in, from these sites:


HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 21
SWANSEA – Planet Swans 18
NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 14
FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 12
BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 12
READING – Royals Rendezvous 9
CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5
Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 4
BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 3
LIVERPOOL – Liverpool FC Forum 3
BRIGHTON – North Stand Chat 3
WEST BROMWICH ALBION – WBAZone 2
NORWICH CITY – Not 606 Norwich Board 2
CRYSTAL PALACE – Holmesdale Forum 2
WATFORD – WFC Forums 2
MANCHESTER UNITED – United Lounge Forum 1
BLACKPOOL – Back Henry Street Forum 1

 

It's funny but apart from the odd occasion Watford have been there, I really couldn't give a flying **** about the Premiership. In that vain I will do a Championship verdict:

Watford

That's as far as I could be bothered with sorry

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
--------
Arsenal
--------
Newcastle United
Liverpool
Sunderland
Swansea City
West Ham United
Everton
Fulham
West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa
Cardiff City
Southampton
Norwich City
---------------
Stoke City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

You've shamed me into giving it a go.





Manchester City
Chelsea
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
--------
Arsenal
--------
Newcastle United
Liverpool
Everton
Sunderland
Swansea City
Fulham
Aston Villa
West Ham United
Southampton
West Bromwich Albion
Cardiff City
Norwich City
---------------
Stoke City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

fml.

 

Just noticed both our predictions are pretty similar. Odd that.

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool
Everton
Sunderland
Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion
Fulham
West Ham United
Newcastle United
Aston Villa
Southampton
Stoke City
Cardiff City
Norwich City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester United
Manchester City
Tottenham
Arsenal
Liverpool
Swansea City
Everton
West Ham United
Norwich
Newcastle
Fulham
West Bromich Albion
Southampton
Aston Villa
Sunderland
Cardiff City
Hull City
Stoke City
Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool
Fulham
Sunderland
Everton
Swansea
Southampton
Norwich
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United
Cardiff
Aston Villa
Newcastle
Stoke City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

Manchester City
Chelsea
Manchester United
Arsenal
Tottenham
Liverpool
Everton
West Ham United
Swansea City
Norwich
Newcastle
Fulham
West Bromwich Albion
Cardiff City
Southampton
Aston Villa
Sunderland
Stoke City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

all safely noted down guys ...

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal
Liverpool
Swansea City
Sunderland
Everton
Norwich
Fulham
West Ham United
Southampton
Newcastle
West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa
Cardiff City
Stoke City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle United
Everton
West Ham United
Norwich City
Swansea City
Southampton
Fulham
Stoke City
Cardiff City
Sunderland
Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal
Liverpool
West Ham United
Everton
Swansea City
Sunderland
Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion
Southampton
Cardiff City
Norwich City
Newcastle United
Stoke City
Fulham
Crystal Palace
Hull City

 

Manchester United
Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham United
Everton
Swansea City
Sunderland
Southampton
Fulham
Stoke City
Cardiff
Norwich
Aston Villa
Newcastle United
West Bromwich Albion
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool
Swansea
Fulham
Everton
Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion
Southampton
Norwich City
West Ham United
Sunderland
Newcastle United
Cardiff City
Stoke City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

 

Controversial there Filbert.

And on what possible grounds do you not have Palace rock bottom like EVERY single other predictor?

 

Seriously though, off the top of my head Speroni and Ramage are the only players in that team with any Premier League experience. And Carlton Cole if he signs. I'm making a tout of a sub-20 points season. Lolz all round and a live-on-air Holloway meltdown in a Keegan style after a controversial decision which was in no way contraversial.

West Ham down as the surprise package this season.

I love a bit of Fulham, they've been the Prem team I've rooted for during our years in the wilderness. Sadly I can see a slow start, new owner with an itchy trigger finger, and a heartbreaking end of season slump.

Chelsea have an incredibly strong squad bar maybe some defensive cover. They have about 4000 exciting young attacking midfielders at their disposal too.

 

Chelsea
Man City
Man Utd
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool
Swansea
Soton
Everton
Sunderland
West Ham
West Brom
Norwich
Fulham
Newcastle
Aston Villa
Cardiff
Stoke
Hull
Palace

 

Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Liverpool
Man Utd
Spurs
Sunderland
Swansea
Everton
Southampton
West Ham
Norwich
Fulham
Aston Villa
Cardiff
West Brom
Stoke
Newcastle
Hull
Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Manchester United
Tottenham
Everton
Sunderland
Liverpool
Southampton
Swansea City
West Ham United
Fulham
West Bromwich Albion
Norwich City
Aston Villa
Cardiff
Stoke City
Hull City
Newcastle United
Crystal Palace

 

"Torment in Heaven" - are you Spanish by any chance?

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal
Sunderland
Liverpool
Newcastle United
Everton
Fulham
Cardiff City
Southampton
Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion
Norwich City
West Ham United
Stoke City
Crystal Palace
Swansea City
Hull City

 

Here’s a big update lads, as promised. Firstly, many thanks to all for your involvement. We are taking this seriously, it’s not any old thread and then forgotten. The idea is to provide you all with season-long entertainment, as you’ll see when we kick off on 17th August as the season starts. Actually, there was a bit of minimal doubt from just a couple of posters that we’d not do anything after putting up the thread, but I hope these kinds of progress reports are a good kind of proof of how we want to do the thing. This “analysis” is taken at the 325 entry mark, just 2 or 3 days ago, but we are way beyond that now!

If you take the entries here on your site, and make an average one, we’d come up with this from this forum:

1 Chelsea
2 Manchester City
3 Manchester United
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur
6 Liverpool
7 Everton
8 Swansea City
9 West Ham United
10 Sunderland
11 Fulham
12 Newcastle United
13 West Bromwich Albion
14 Southampton
15 Norwich City
16 Aston Villa
17 Cardiff
18 Stoke City
19 Hull
20 Crystal Palace


But further still, if we were to make an average out of ALL the first 325 members, this is the ‘average favourite’ of ALL entries:


Combined


1 Chelsea
2 Manchester City
3 Manchester United
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur
6 Liverpool
7 Everton
8 Swansea City
9 West Bromwich Albion
10 West Ham United
11 Fulham
12 Newcastle United
13 Southampton
14 Aston Villa
15 Sunderland
16 Norwich City
17 Stoke City
18 Cardiff City
19 Hull City
20 Crystal Palace


The forum entries, including the latest arrivals stand currently at:

SWANSEA – Planet Swans 34
HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 29 (32, but includes 3 incorrect at present = 29)
NORWICH CITY – Not 606 Norwich Board 23
LEICESTER – Foxes Talk 22
WATFORD – WFC Forums 20 --- EXCELLENT SHOWING !!
DERBY – DCFC Fans Forum 18
DONCASTER – Viking Chat Forum 17
LEEDS – Dirty Leeds forum 17
NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 16
FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 14
BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 13
BRIGHTON – North Stand Chat 12
LIVERPOOL – Liverpool FC Forum 12
QPR – Not 606 QPR Board 12
LEEDS – LUFC Talk 11
READING – Royals Rendezvous 11
BLACKPOOL – Back Henry Street Forum 10
CRYSTAL PALACE – Holmesdale Forum 9
EVERTON – ToffeeTalk Forum 8
PETERBOROUGH – The Official Posh Forum 8
Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 7
CHELSEA – Chelsea FC Forums 7 (8, but includes 1 incorrect at present = 7)
WBA – BaggiesZone 6
WBA – WBAZone 6
BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 5 (6, but includes 1 incorrect at present = 5)
BURNLEY – The Longside 5
CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5
WIGAN – This Northern Soul 5

CRAWLEY TOWN – CTFC Net 4
SUNDERLAND – Black Cat Chat Forum 3
Individual Non-affiliated Entries 2
MANCHESTER UNITED – United Lounge Forum 1
NOTTINGHAM FOREST – The A Block 1

Only two forums have not yet taken up the invitation ...


This is a staggering 374 entry guesses / from 33 forums !

The premier league season doesn’t start until 17th August, entries are allowed until 11.59 on 16th August, so we’re aiming for an entry of 500 so that we can really say this is a national game of interest and importance.

It is even possible for those not affiliated to forums to try; in this case you’d need to leave an identification name, plus ideally your town/city and certainly your team on this following thread: http://royalsrendezvous.co.uk/topic/9919624/4 Where non registered members ARE able to post.

As we kick off, monthly and usually fortnightly updates will be available on here – usually your own members’ progress and the top 50 or so of the national charts. For a comprehensive complete run-down on everywhere you will be able to find it on the organizing Sunderland Black Cat Chat forum, at:
http://www.blackcatchat.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3977&p=34283#p34283

And as a second option I have a back-up on the “Talk of the Terrace”, useful too because it’s a national forum:
http://www.talkoftheterrace.net/showthread.php?5454-Inter-Forum-PREMIER-Positions-Game-2013-14/page4 That same Royals Rendezvous thread previously mentioned will also have everything covered as a third option!

Tell your friends!


I’ll do another big update next weekend, but I’ll be on here to comment anything or any queries during the week, no worries …

daib0

 

Chelsea
Manchester City
Manchester United
Arsenal
Tottenham
Liverpool
Everton
Sunderland
Swansea
Southampton
Fulham
West Brom
Newcastle
Villa
West Ham
Norwich
Stoke
Hull
Cardiff
Palace

 

Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Man United
Spurs
Liverpool
Swansea
Everton
Southampton
Sunderland
West Brom
Fulham
Norwich
Villa
West Ham
Newcastle
Cardiff
Stoke
Hull
Palace

 

1 Chelsea
2 Manchester City
3 Tottenham Hotspur
4 Arsenal
5 Manchester United
6 Liverpool
7 Swansea City
8 West Ham United
9 Fulham
10 Southampton
11 Everton
12 Sunderland
13 Norwich City
14 Newcastle United
15 West Bromwich Albion
16 Aston Villa
17 Stoke City
18 Cardiff City
19 Hull City
20 Crystal Palace

 

Chelsea
Manchester United
Manchester City
Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool
Arsenal
West Ham United
Swansea City
Everton
Sunderland
Southampton
Cardiff City
West Bromwich Albion
Fulham
Stoke City
Norwich City
Aston Villa
Hull City
Newcastle United
Crystal Palace