DAY 4 - Werewolf 2018

HH, you've mentioned me at least a half a dozen times without ever giving a reason why. Apart from voting Harrow yesterday (and already explained) I can't think of anything that should bring you to your conclusion.

 

Fair point according to last nights tavern he didnt vote because he was on a panel or something like that.

 

Haven't had a chance to read through everything properly but if the Seer wants to view me then go ahead, I'm just a mere villager.

I still believe that two evil met after yesterday mornings write up by Otter - potentially Moog and a Wolf?

I still don't understand how HH24 is proven to be the Seer/good though? Did I miss something?

 

Perhaps I wasn't clear? I meant yesterday mornings write up (06/06)- the Wolf met someone and they let the Wolf into the house and ate the leftovers from the kills the night before.

Perhaps I've misunderstood it completely but it seemed relevant to me.

 

Sorry the last reply was poorly formatted and then timed out. I did think that Otter would have made the creation of an extra wolf more clear. He has done so this morning, but I got that wrong, as did Meh.

However:

A) Look at my posts where I deduced it was better to vote for Moog yesterday over Harrow. I’m pretty proud of the logic to kill Moog (This was before Opti's cool shootout).
" That is actually a very useful reason to keep you alive, actually.
If you protect yourself tonight, we will know whether you are the guardian or not. If you don't, you cannot come out with the excuse that you are the tinker. You will be confirmed evil.
If we get rid of you tonight, we'd have no way of knowing whether Moog was the tinker or someone evil tomorrow."

B) I refused to vote off Diamond on day 1, as he was clearly a valuable player for team Good, despite Moog trying to recruit.
I went with PJ instead, as I thought he was more suspicious. PJ has never questioned why or accused me of anything for voting for him.

C) I thought you were hiding something yesterday AM. But the second you gave your seer logic, I voted for Moog immediately (when the voting was 3-2 to kill Harrow). It would make no sense to go in that early or believe your clues that strongly if I was on team evil.
You: Seriously?! Right, apologies Seer, you're going to have to find a new way of giving us clues:...
(8 minutes later)

"Serious smarts. I'm going for Moog. I was 50-50, but this would be too much of a coincidence if fabricated.
If Moog is good, then Harrow has to be killed tomorrow. No ifs. No buts. No 'Oh! Look at the new shiny messages!'
By the end of tomorrow, we need to have got rid of, at best an evil and at worst a tinker, who has the potential to confuse."

 

Great - then we're all in agreement.

HH24 spotted some clues in the seers messages, which steered team good towards voting for Moog. No evil player would have done that.

 

@miked2006

I didn't question or otherwise make a fuss of you voting for me because it doesn't benefit anyone. If we argue over the validity of it, it takes away from the main focus of finding Evil players, as it did for Moog v Harrow yesterday. Instead, by focusing on what we know rather than what we go with via hunches we have a greater chance of Good winning.

 

I also have PO as suspicious, along with PJ they both favored Moog over harrow yesterday
Miked is still 50/50 for me
nornironhorn is my only other suspicion, no reason really, just a gut feel about the things he has agreed on, the time he is about, but he hasn't ruffled any feathers

 

I might have something there ,been googling other roles in various werewolf game and came up with this

There is a general overlap between the roles of Ultimate Werewolf and One Night Ultimate Werewolf however the details of characters vary, largely stemming from the differences between the two games. For example, the Doppelgänger role in Ultimate Werewolf takes on the role of the character they have chosen only if that character dies. In Ultimate Werewolf the Doppelgänger can then take action in the subsequent night phases of the game. This is in contrast to the Doppelgänger role of One Night Ultimate Werewolf which, because of the single-round nature of game, immediately takes on the role of the player they have chosen and behaves as if they were that role during the night phase.[1

Its more than likely BS but the way this games gone who knows.

 

Not quite true. I make no qualms about you saying I was sure moog was Good at points yesterday given what we knew. However, I voted for moog before the gunslinger event when hh24 explained the code used by the Seer which was more reliable and logical than my own theory yesterday of looking at the start of the messages. I might get my own intuition wrong but it's not for trying to deceive others and I'll always be open to changing my mind when more suitable evidence arises.

 

CB is my main suspicion, as he's playing the game exactly like when I was a wolf. Gives nothing away with responses and never accuses.

Nobody except myself has even noticed him.

That is typical of a player with a role. But as he states - he doesn't have a role.

 

I didn't say you were trying to deceive others, I said you favored Moog over harrow

 

On your radar because I'm asking questions no one else seems to be asking? Or on your radar because I'm asking for clarification on how you are good/seer?

Like I said before, feel free to view me.

How would Moog know HH24 was the Seer though? This is what I don't understand - if someone can just answer me that then I'll stop asking.

 

I see - thanks for clearing that up, that's all I wanted, a rationale

 

Moog accused HH24 of being the seer after she made public the code at the end of each message.
Doesn't mean she is the seer, in fact I hope she isn't as she is a dead lady walking at the moment.

Unless what ever turned a women to stone last night has spread through out the splices and all women now remain like that for ever and ever and ever and ever !

 

makes sense to me , and on that note I going to take my dog out back in an hour or so .

 

This is why I said Mike less so than others in the list of potential evil players.

In terms of who should Happy view today. PO, PJ or CB. I really think PJ is evil though.

 

Hmm I thought you said you would vote for me before the gunslinger.....

 

I did. See what I wrote yesterday as I had a theory based off the start of the Seer's messages which you can read for yourself. However hh24 explained the code used by the Seer which was more reliable and logical than my own theory and voted for moog before the gunslinger event.

I base my votes and logic on what we know and not what I guess. If I'm wrong then I'm happy to U-turn on a previous belief or trail of thought should evidence arise which disputes it better than my own.

 

I still think you only changed your mind once it was obvious who the seer was.

Nonetheless, this is enough for me to leave you alone for now. Look at PO or CB. Preferably the former.

Im suspicious of so many right now lol.

 

Lets face it the wolf hasn't posted 1st at all so far, it's unlikely hey are going to change that

Plus I haven't seen our main suspect this morning

 

The seer can post though, not sure why they should delay