Booooing Mahon

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Harrow Orn, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. Harrow Orn

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    I think we've got the same scenario as the England squad, Gerrard and Lampard can't play together, neither can Francis and Mahon.
     
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    you can't compare lampard and gerrard to francis and mahon. i just can't grasp the concept in my head.
     
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    No anyone can boo whenever they want. Its their right
     
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    Ok, IMO i think they shouldn't booo ;)

    Is it time to bring Al Bangura back in the team, or even Williamson, Williams and Rinaldi?
     
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    if booing players during the match worked, west ham would be top of the league.
     
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    Yes bang bangura needs to come back and i wanna see what this williamson can do!
     
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    Yeah, West Ham fans booo their players all the time! I think during a game you should encourage and if they still play poor then you booo at the end.
     
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    Francis has played better than naomal lately but still only avarage.

    because that helps how ?



    I agree the partenership dont work , Francis played better when ,mahon was injured , Mahon plays better with bang bang


    And look where they are :rolleyes:



    Everybody slated mahon before he kicked a ball this season , he proved everybody wrong and had played very well all season , he has a poor game against Wigan and every one slates him again and boos him.

    To be honest fans are just using it as a scapegoat because we are going down.
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    Aint it funny only 2 weeks ao hendo was getting slated and everyone was saying he should be dropped.
     
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    I wasn't. Anyone with any sense wasn't.
     
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    i still think he should be. i just wouldn't boo him during or before the game.
     
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    Are you saying that anyone who 2 weeks ago questions a forward who had not scored all season has no sense?
     
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    he tries hard. apparently thats enough.
     
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    Yes but that is my point!!! Everyone was slating Hendo etc now they all love him, why is it so hard to understand that now Mahon isnt performing well people are slating him too?
     
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    After the Wigan game, one of the papers referred to the obvious frustration in the crowd, as coming from 'a support known as one of the most loyal in the league'.

    It's a shame if we let the obvious recent change in the make up of our support mar our reputation. We are a small town and a small club punching well above our weight. Our response to relegation last time won us respect all over the country, I know our support has gone downhill since then but let's not ruin our reputation completely.
     
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    Well lets be fair to the fans, theres only so much we can take. I dont even blame Mahon solely, i blame everything ranging from team effort, morale etc to pure lack of luck.

    I dont think anyone could match our patience
     
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    GT still got abuse the following year though, when we struggled in the 2nd half of the season. I've just written my blog on a response to my frustration, and i honestly don't know who to blame partly because unlike some of you i can't go each week, so until today had been living in ignorance (to an extent).

    I guess this is also just one of the main problems of being a big small team, but i'll feel deeply saddened if our support goes the way of Norwich and Wolves to name but 2 who were in the premiership recently - i really don't want us 'expecting' to be a premiership side (much as i want us to be one)
     
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    booing mahon and/or the team or otherwise and arguing about it disguises the real problem of whether mahon is good enough quality to be a midfielder at watford and/or captain.

    in my opinion, he is not in good enough form at present to warrant a starting place and his apparent on pitch behaviour as captain is simply unacceptable.

    his lack of ability at times has been all too obvious and I question whether he is of strong enough character to see it through and guide and promote others to do their best. smacking a fist into your other hand is not rousing others and it's been a while since I can remember mahon obviously geeing up team mates to improve performance.

    please don't give me any argument that he leads by example. lately he has been awful and not good enough for any championship side. captain or not, let's leave him out of the squad until his form improves.

    no-one is above criticism.
     
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    But Carly why does it have to be any of those factors? Maybe we're just not good enough.

    Do you see no currency at all in the argument that he (a) runs absolutely everywhere and (b) is doing the job of two men by covering Francis? He was excellent last year when he had decent support in midfield. I think he's doing a lone job.
     
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    Problem with Mahon is he has 1 good game every 4 weeks and then everyone praises him and says 'play him, play him' and then after that one game he has 3 poor games everyone dislikes him, proves himself again and then plays carp again.
     
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    Francis playing well did somebody say!?

    Yes maybe by League 2 standards but you can hardly say he or Mahon have performed too much in 2007.
     
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    Bangura and Francis in the middle IMO, we played so much more football on the floor when they both played.
     
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    I agree with UEA that Mahon has to do two jobs and it is showing him up as playing worse than he actually is. He needs to be partnered with someone who can share the running, and who will break into the opposition box whilst Mahon can stay back and do what he's best at.

    Unfortuantly we sold that player to Luton.
     
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    didnt go but watched the highlights on motd. looks like the players have given up now especially in first half. have to say Kabba and Priskin looked sharp together in second half though, some nice link up play there. I have now resigned myself to the fact we are going down, anyone who thinks we can stay up now is very deluded. Looking forward to winning some games next season with a great young squad though so all is not doom and gloom eh.
     
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    Did anyone actually booo Mahon before the game? I didn't but I'm sure some idiots did.
     
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    We arent good enough!! But it is because of those factors that we arent good enough.

    There is always a reason behind everything, and there are reasons why we arent good enough. We do stupid stuff on the pitch etc. Like i said to me this isnt about Mahon himself but just everything
     
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    But you have to ask why! We all see in one-off cup ties that a team lacking in skill can nevertheless hold and sometimes beat a vastly superior team. But it rarely happens in the hard slog of a league season (at least never on a regular enough basis to keep such a team up). We aren't up to this level but you can't blame anyone or anything for that.
     
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    i'm gonna blame thatcher
     
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    Too right!
     
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    Well you can, theres a reason that we are not up to this level. Anyone can be good enough if they tried. If we can beat teams in the cup etc then we know that we CAN do it. There are so many excuses for our poor performances, we're not magically rubbish. Yes we perform better in the championship but so what, we can do better if we actually focussed on what makes us only championship material
     
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    fans pay there money, and are free to voice their feelings. i hope they do it more often
     
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    On the original subject of booing mahon, i think i heard a few and if you did you are a f***ing disgrace. Name one posotive that you'll get out of that, ive already made my views on mahon clear in other posts how people love it when he makes a mistake so they can get on his back, when we've got mistakes being made all over the pitch, aidy picks the team so to say your booing him 'coz he shouldnt get picked is just f'ing ridiculous, if you did boo him, just stay away from games in future, you wont be missed
     
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    By all means boo the team as a whole but to boo one individual player before the match when his name is read out is just nonsense. Do you think it's going to help ?? It's not going to help that player perform any better when he's got the fans on his back.
     
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    "Anyone can be good enough if they tried" -

    I would accept that more on a one to one basis, like a tennis match or a golf player.

    However when you have to rely on 11 players, who had not kicked a premiership football before this season apart form JS, i would say its nigh on impossible or at best extremely rare for a squad of players that we have at Watford to acheive that of being good enough. What actually is "being good enough". Survival, not coming bottom,, winning the premiership?

    Also how long is good enough. Wigan could well go down this season, yet last season they were good enough or one season wonders?

    Sustained premiership football of over 5 years then one could say that team is good enough.

    "Yes we perform better in the championship but so what, we can do better if we actually focussed on what makes us only championship material" - i do not understand that? We perdormed one season in the fizzy pop league, the previous seasons we were getting worse and worse.
     

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