Another day, another terror attack

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Halfwayline, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    Pakistan militants kill 141 in a school...at least 132 were kids
     
  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Sad to see so many innocent people killed like this.
     
  3. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Evil people, just plain evil people.

    I wonder what mitigating circumstances posters on here will come up with, yet again.
     
  4. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Bastar*s.

    Could've been a cousin of mine.

    One selfish positive from this is the fact they clearly aren't motivated by Islam so maybe people will lay off the religion now and realise these people are just evil.
     
  5. PotGuy

    PotGuy Forum Fetishist

    I think any sort of comment is disrespectful in a way, there are no words that can describe it adequately.
     
  6. simms

    simms vBookie

    I wonder if this will make children more or less likely to go to school. In a way it's easy to say no we must stand up to them and ensure that the children go to school, but is it really worth the risk?

    The point seems to be to want to keep the population uneducated so the taliban can remain in control. Very sad indeed that power crazed people could think that the only way they can regain power is through mass slaughter. It baffles me how anybody could think it's justifiable.
     
  7. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Really? Because every report I've seen has quoted Taliban leaders saying the attacks were retribution for the latest crackdown by the Pakistani army in the region - hence targeting a school that serves many military families.
     
  8. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    Let's just hope that some good comes out of this and the country as a whole rally against the Taliban
     
  9. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    I'm not excusing it but I think it was more of a military academy ... there is a difference
     
  10. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Here we go. It wasn't a school it was a military academy. It was done in retribution for other attacks, etc, etc, etc.

    Children of 2 years old, and 10 years old killed today.

    It doesn't take long, does it!

    It makes me puke!
     
  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Grow up
     
  12. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    I've not been following it at all so forgive my ignorance ... my comment was based on a leader on google news ... but misquote me at your peril

    It's such a waste of young lives regardless of the reasons.
     
  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    You are so obviously fishing again ZZ it's tragic. Perhaps a bit more respect for the casualties? They didn't die just so you could make a point on t'internet.
     
  14. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Can't disagree, what a ****er
     
  15. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Completely the opposite, Moose. It seems usual on this Forum to look for reasons in mitigation for such horrors, I was just hoping that it wouldn't happen again. Nothing would please me more than if there was total 100% condemnation of these evil people, not just on here, but worldwide.

    Let's hope it happens.
     
  16. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    I'm sure there is .. now fck off ZZ
     
  17. nascot

    nascot First Team

    Grow up FFS. People are just discussing the details of it.
     
  18. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    There can be no justification of terror...be it in Pakistan, Iraq, Australia, Israel or anywhere else. There can be no reason, religious or military, that justifies the execution of the innocent kids

    I think that's ZZT's point

    Where will this all end and when will it be UKs turn
     
  19. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    I don't think so.
     
  20. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

     
  21. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Thanks, but we don't need you to point this out. The issue is what we are allowed to say when we try to understand why before ZZ accuses us of supporting terrorism, which on previous form is nothing at all.
     
  22. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Nobodies making excuses ZZ but looking for reasons why can often help.

    Condeming it does what? Does it stop them? No.

    Trying to see why anyone would commit this crime can help people get a step closer towards stopping it.

    For example without discussing it or looking into details, a solution may be to put security outside every single school which would be infeasible but now we know it was a school full of kids of those high in military power maybe Pakistan can look at other schools where this is the case rather than waste time looking at other schools.

    It's quite simple logic really. Like others have said, grow up.
     
  23. simms

    simms vBookie

    Quite right, i hadn't read that before i posted. Previous attacks in the past have been to try to stop women especially from being educated, i assumed this was the same.
     
  24. simms

    simms vBookie

    I think people need to be more finely tuned to reading about reasons and excuses. Reasons are the causes of why it happened, whereas excuses are justifications. I think the cause of it was the retribution and things, which in the talibans eyes are justifications, but to us are not. This is where the confusion in this thread lies I think.
     
  25. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    "The smallest coffins are the heaviest"
    Don't know where this originated but this comment most sums up how I feel reading today's awful news coming out of Peshawar.
     
  26. fan

    fan slow toaster

    i had no idea what a 'reason' was or what 'excuses' meant. but now, thanks to simms' accessible and fresh take on things, i'm able to start tomorrow like it's the first day in the rest of my new life. 'tomorrow,' and i'm waiting for confirmation before committing to this, happens sometime after tuesday.
     
  27. simms

    simms vBookie

    :whoosh:
     
  28. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Well I briefly caught the headline students and military school and saw a victim shown in a photo who was very much a young adult before tuning to the football, only since my original post did I find that Simms was not mistaken and it's actually a real school.

    I certainly don't condone any acts of terrorism or of war for that matter but hat it been a place where they train young soldiers to fight the Taliban then I might understand the reasoning behind it. It isn't and I don't but I will not stand for ZZ twisting my words just to suit his little ego. If he wants a manly debate then fine but I fancy we are both on the same side of the fence on this issue. Of course I find it appalling, what sane person wouldn't?
     
  29. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Tbf zed has just the one agenda...he is right regardless and everyone else is morally corrupt and/or the S word.
     
  30. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    I look at it a different way from most on this thread

    In my view, to seek reasons is to give a justification to the cause:

    Lee Rigby was killed because he was dressed as a soldier
    132 kids were killed because it is an army academy
    A man detonates a bomb on a bus because of his twisted interpretation of Islam
    A settler kills 3 because he believes jews have a divine right to the land

    I understand people seek explanations but if the media stopped highlighting the twisted cause and just viewed all cases as an act of terror then the perpetrators would not have the coverage and hence the reason to carry out their acts of atrocities
     
  31. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    I hope you include the U.S. and U.K in all this because it's certainly not one way traffic.
     
  32. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    I do...
     
  33. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    To all. What's the best way to stop this sort of thing?
     
  34. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Don't start wars over oil

    goodnight
     
  35. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    Fanaticism cannot be stopped but it must be controlled. It is almost impossible to stop a lone wolf attacker who plans, on his own, to attack a cafe. Maybe go to source and stop those involved in radicalising?
     

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