Andre Gray Scores Party!!!

This doesn't actually make Gray any good, however.

 

Means Gray would have scored 15 this season had he been our main striker! Munoz out

 

Means I might have got 10 just by standing on the penalty spot with my eyes shut waiting for the ball to hit me.

 

You’d be offside the majority of the time doing that, otherwise Troy would do it

 

Not in the Championship mate.

No VAR.

 

Finally, you give our leader the respect he deserves

 

And over 20 if he was our penalty taker

 

What it does mean is that when Andre is on the pitch he is statistically the Watford player most likely to score. He is also 5 times more likely to score than Troy due to his pace, movement and needing much less time than Troy to pull the trigger. If we'd played the whole season in a 433 with JP or Andre as #9 we'd have been champions.

 

I agree that he's more likely to score from open play than Troy.

Too simplistic to say sticking him up front in 4-3-3 would have made us Champions though.

 

He can’t control a football for toffee.

 

Have we sold him to Everton, then?

 

And yet he was our most efficient goalscorer this season. Troy has a good touch but has averaged just 5 goals a season from open play for the last 6 years despite being first choice #9. During those 6 years we've paid Troy over £500k per goal from open play in wages.

 

Just seen the highlights. I really like the run Gray made for his goal. It was a typical Gray finish with the ball just hitting him and going in, but he made his luck with an incredible run. He sprints past Success, who was well ahead of him at the beginning of the move and was there with momentum to deflect the ball in the net. Lucky, well maybe, but he made that luck himself.

Success has something about him, but he needs someone to slap him around the face a few times. How do you get the guy going? He's so lethargic. The goal summed up Gray and Success for me. No way should Gray been first to the ball, but he was because he was determined. Success is just too lazy/disinterested/unmotivated. But then you the other side of Success. The last two games he's had a "moment". The first one against Brentford where he chests the ball and thumps it against the bar then his other moment to unleash a thunderbolt past the Swansea keeper. Is that enough? Probably is to ensure he's retained, but I'd certainly loan him out next season. Give him regular football somewhere to see if he develops.

 

Hookers and Baileys obviously.

 

Find me stats to back that up, or ur not a proper fan m8

 

I agree Gray's run was astounding. People will laugh but it was genuinely world class. The desire to get there in a meaningless game for a fanbase that has constantly belittled and abused him shows the measure of the man. Isaac was player of the season for a top flight team in Spain as a teenager. Whether it was Mazarri or his downtime due to that injury that broke him mentally, we'll never know. But the Isaac that wowed Granada never came back. Only a top sports psychologist would have any chance of fixing him. I'dve thought the club have tried that already.

 

Unfortunately Isaac forgot the golden rule of Hookers & Baileys. Just like Ivic shouldve gone 433, Isaac shouldve gone Hookers, Baileys, Viagra or Hookers, Baileys, Cialis depending on his weapon of choice.

 

I think we should try a layer of toffee on the insole of his boots.

Might help the ball to stick to his feet in the proverbial fashion.

 

I know hindsight is 20/20 and all that, but if we’d played Gray full time and let him take penalties he’d have at least 15-20 goals this season. We’d then have no problem moving him on now, meanwhile Troy wouldn’t have had the opportunity to stink the place out and confirm to all and sundry he’s completely past it. We could’ve far more easily shifted both under that scenario. Instead they’ve both ended up significantly damaging our prospects of moving them on, further holding the club back for yet another season.

 

Well he'd have to score all 10, and if we know anything about Andre Gray it's that he doesn't score sitters! Besides, even if he started every game ahead of Deeney, there's no guarantee he'd be on the pitch any time we had a penalty, he wasn't for the Cov game when he was coming back to fitness

 

Yeah I agree, that’s why I said hindsight is 20/20 and it would’ve required a perfect scenario for that to have panned out. Either way he definitely would’ve had more goals even if he just took a few of the pens as his penalty record is pretty good (missed one in his career?) and been easier to shift. As it is I think they’re both now worth a lot less/harder to shift than even 12 months ago.

 

Absolutely horrifying statistics. Thank god learned how to defend

 

If he had scored that many why would the club want to sell him? He'd be one of the stars of the team, keeping Troy out and meaning Joao competing with Ken for the wide left spot. The season would have had a completely different perspective to it.

 

Because he’s still not a very good footballer, and scoring 15-20 goals in the championship doesn’t necessarily make a Premier League striker does it?

Troy, Iggy and Vydra all scored 20+ championship goals the season before we were last promoted, yet only Iggy looked like a premier league striker for half a season, aside from that none of them have ever scored nearly enough for that position in the PL, and to survive that’s what we need isn’t it?

 

This ignores the fact that, if Gray had been perpetually in the team, the majority of our attacks would have broken down due to him not having the ball control of Pedro & co. So lots of goals and situations leading to penalties would not have happened.

 

Not really, he fits the system post Deeney far better than Deeney did/would. Troy scored 6 of our 10 pens so if Gray would’ve been in the team instead of Deeney for those, he would’ve scored more via both pens and goals from open play.

 

Assuming he was not offside in the build up, so the penalty incident didn't even happen.

 

He's frustrating because I think there is genuinely a good player in there, but he just doesn't seem capable of bringing it out for anything more than brief flashes.

 

You are right it doesn't, but it is human nature to want to keep a player who has been banging in the goals. If Gray had scored 18 goals for us this season he would be a good footballer for us. The "he's not a very good footballer" wouldn't come into it. Its the fact he is inconsistent and not as good as he was and not scored that many means most don't want him at the club no more.