Americanisms (or are they?)

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  1. poleman

    poleman Reservist

    I found this on the BBC website and found it interesting.

    Personally I don't associate them all with America- just as an evolution of our language. However some are more annoying than others!

    Notably: 1, 6, 15, 16* , 18, 23, 24, 36, 40, 42, 44, 49 and 50!

    *though I have found myself saying this occasionally.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14201796

    The Magazine's recent piece on Americanisms entering the language in the UK prompted thousands of you to e-mail examples.

    Some are useful, while some seem truly unnecessary, argued Matthew Engel in the article. Here are 50 of the most e-mailed.

    1. When people ask for something, I often hear: "Can I get a..." It infuriates me. It's not New York. It's not the 90s. You're not in Central Perk with the rest of the Friends. Really." Steve, Rossendale, Lancashire

    2. The next time someone tells you something is the "least worst option", tell them that their most best option is learning grammar. Mike Ayres, Bodmin, Cornwall

    3. The phrase I've watched seep into the language (especially with broadcasters) is "two-time" and "three-time". Have the words double, triple etc, been totally lost? Grammatically it makes no sense, and is even worse when spoken. My pulse rises every time I hear or see it. Which is not healthy as it's almost every day now. Argh! D Rochelle, Bath

    4. Using 24/7 rather than "24 hours, 7 days a week" or even just plain "all day, every day". Simon Ball, Worcester

    5. The one I can't stand is "deplane", meaning to disembark an aircraft, used in the phrase "you will be able to deplane momentarily". TykeIntheHague, Den Haag, Holland

    6. To "wait on" instead of "wait for" when you're not a waiter - once read a friend's comment about being in a station waiting on a train. For him, the train had yet to arrive - I would have thought rather that it had got stuck at the station with the friend on board. T Balinski, Raglan, New Zealand

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    A US reader writes...

    JP Spore believes there is nothing wrong with English evolving

    Languages are, by their very nature, shifting, malleable things that morph according to the needs and desires of those who speak them.

    Mr Engel suggests that British English should be preserved, but it seems to me this both lacks a historical perspective of the language, as well as an ignorance of why it is happening.

    English itself is a rather complicated, interesting blend of Germanic, French and Latin (among other things). It has arrived at this point through the long and torturous process of assimilation and modification. The story of the English language is the story of an unstoppable train of consecutive changes - and for someone to put their hand up and say "wait - the train stops here and should go no further" is not only futile, but ludicrously arbitrary.

    Why here? Why not stop it 20 years ago? Or 20 years hence? If we're going to just set an arbitrary limit on language change, why not choose the year 1066 AD? The Saxons had some cool words, right?

    Mr Engel - and all language Luddites on both sides of the Atlantic, including more than a few here in the States - really need to get over it when their countrymen find more value in non-native words than in their native lexicon.

    I understand the argument about loss of cultural identity, but if so many people are so willing to give up traditional forms and phrases maybe we should consider that they didn't have as much value as we previously imagined.

    7. "It is what it is". Pity us. Michael Knapp, Chicago, US

    8. Dare I even mention the ***** pack? Lisa, Red Deer, Canada

    9. "Touch base" - it makes me cringe no end. Chris, UK

    10. Is "physicality" a real word? Curtis, US

    11. Transportation. What's wrong with transport? Greg Porter, Hercules, CA, US

    12. The word I hate to hear is "leverage". Pronounced lev-er-ig rather than lee-ver -ig. It seems to pop up in all aspects of work. And its meaning seems to have changed to "value added". Gareth Wilkins, Leicester

    13. Does nobody celebrate a birthday anymore, must we all "turn" 12 or 21 or 40? Even the Duke of Edinburgh was universally described as "turning" 90 last month. When did this begin? I quite like the phrase in itself, but it seems to have obliterated all other ways of speaking about birthdays. Michael McAndrew, Swindon

    14. I caught myself saying "shopping cart" instead of shopping trolley today and was thoroughly disgusted with myself. I've never lived nor been to the US either. Graham Nicholson, Glasgow

    15. What kind of word is "gotten"? It makes me shudder. Julie Marrs, Warrington

    16. "I'm good" for "I'm well". That'll do for a start. Mike, Bridgend, Wales

    17. "Bangs" for a fringe of the hair. Philip Hall, Nottingham

    18. Take-out rather than takeaway! Simon Ball, Worcester

    19. I enjoy Americanisms. I suspect even some Americans use them in a tongue-in-cheek manner? "That statement was the height of ridiculosity". Bob, Edinburgh

    20. "A half hour" instead of "half an hour". EJB, Devon

    21. A "heads up". For example, as in a business meeting. Lets do a "heads up" on this issue. I have never been sure of the meaning. R Haworth, Marlborough

    22. Train station. My teeth are on edge every time I hear it. Who started it? Have they been punished? Chris Capewell, Queens Park, London

    23. To put a list into alphabetical order is to "alphabetize it" - horrid! Chris Fackrell, York

    24. People that say "my bad" after a mistake. I don't know how anything could be as annoying or lazy as that. Simon Williamson, Lymington, Hampshire

    25. "Normalcy" instead of "normality" really irritates me. Tom Gabbutt, Huddersfield

    26. As an expat living in New Orleans, it is a very long list but "burglarize" is currently the word that I most dislike. Simon, New Orleans

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    A US reader writes...

    Melanie Johnson - MA student in Applied Linguistics, now in the UK

    The idea that there once existed a "pure" form of English is simply untrue. The English spoken in the UK today has been influenced by a number of languages, including Dutch, French and German. Speakers from the time of William the Conqueror would not recognise what we speak in Britain as English. This is because language variation shifts are constantly changing.

    Five years ago you might have found it odd if someone asked you to "friend" them, but today many of us know this means to add them on Facebook. The increased use of technology, in combination with the rise of a globalised society, means language changes are happening faster than ever, especially in places with highly diverse populations like London. Young people are usually at the vanguard of this, so it's no surprise to find London teenagers increasingly speaking what's been termed "multicultural ethnic English".

    Changes in word use are normal and not unique to any language. But English does enjoy a privileged status as the world's lingua franca. That began with the British, but has been maintained by the Americans. It's difficult to predict how English will next evolve, but the one certainty is it will.

    27. "Oftentimes" just makes me shiver with annoyance. Fortunately I've not noticed it over here yet. John, London

    28. Eaterie. To use a prevalent phrase, oh my gaad! Alastair, Maidstone (now in Athens, Ohio)

    29. I'm a Brit living in New York. The one that always gets me is the American need to use the word bi-weekly when fortnightly would suffice just fine. Ami Grewal, New York

    30. I hate "alternate" for "alternative". I don't like this as they are two distinct words, both have distinct meanings and it's useful to have both. Using alternate for alternative deprives us of a word. Catherine, London

    31. "Hike" a price. Does that mean people who do that are hikers? No, hikers are ramblers! M Holloway, Accrington

    32. Going forward? If I do I shall collide with my keyboard. Ric Allen, Matlock

    33. I hate the word "deliverable". Used by management consultants for something that they will "deliver" instead of a report. Joseph Wall, Newark-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire

    34. The most annoying Americanism is "a million and a half" when it is clearly one and a half million! A million and a half is 1,000,000.5 where one and a half million is 1,500,000. Gordon Brown, Coventry

    35. "Reach out to" when the correct word is "ask". For example: "I will reach out to Kevin and let you know if that timing is convenient". Reach out? Is Kevin stuck in quicksand? Is he teetering on the edge of a cliff? Can't we just ask him? Nerina, London

    36. Surely the most irritating is: "You do the Math." Math? It's MATHS. Michael Zealey, London

    37. I hate the fact I now have to order a "regular Americano". What ever happened to a medium sized coffee? Marcus Edwards, Hurst Green

    38. My worst horror is expiration, as in "expiration date". Whatever happened to expiry? Christina Vakomies, London

    39. My favourite one was where Americans claimed their family were "Scotch-Irish". This of course it totally inaccurate, as even if it were possible, it would be "Scots" not "Scotch", which as I pointed out is a drink. James, Somerset

    40.I am increasingly hearing the phrase "that'll learn you" - when the English (and more correct) version was always "that'll teach you". What a ridiculous phrase! Tabitha, London

    41. I really hate the phrase: "Where's it at?" This is not more efficient or informative than "where is it?" It just sounds grotesque and is immensely irritating. Adam, London

    42. Period instead of full stop. Stuart Oliver, Sunderland

    43. My pet hate is "winningest", used in the context "Michael Schumacher is the winningest driver of all time". I can feel the rage rising even using it here. Gayle, Nottingham

    44. My brother now uses the term "season" for a TV series. Hideous. D Henderson, Edinburgh

    45. Having an "issue" instead of a "problem". John, Leicester

    46. I hear more and more people pronouncing the letter Z as "zee". Not happy about it! Ross, London

    47. To "medal" instead of to win a medal. Sets my teeth on edge with a vengeance. Helen, Martock, Somerset

    48. "I got it for free" is a pet hate. You got it "free" not "for free". You don't get something cheap and say you got it "for cheap" do you? Mark Jones, Plymouth

    49. "Turn that off already". Oh dear. Darren, Munich

    50. "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less" has to be the worst. Opposite meaning of what they're trying to say. Jonathan, Birmingham
     
  2. YouOrns

    YouOrns Reservist

    Alternate and Alternative aren't the same, are they? you can alternate between things - they're each alternatives.
     
  3. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    The thing that pisses me off is when your spellchecker starts saying you've spelt words wrong because it isn't the American spelling, e.g replacing s's with z's
     
  4. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    She did point that out in the article
     
  5. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I hate when
     
  6. Birdydoug

    Birdydoug The Flying Scotsman

    Sometimes you adapt into Americanisms to make them understand you, and then it sticks.

    I'll check in on you guys later.
     

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