Doing the maths - play off final date is 25th May - maximum loan length is 93 days in emergency window - subtract one from the other to deduce the date that we will sign people on loan i think - unless of course injuries bring that forward. We signed Guerdioura on emergency terms and therefore he only has the remainder of his 93 left - about 55 i think - so we would have had to sign him inside the Jan window on a half season loan if we wanted to sign him for the rest of the year - if we still want him but want him available for any play off final then end March is the earliest we could sign him
You are right - in the 60's / 70' s we seemed to play the same 11 and sub every week and a new signing was an event - I recall that when we signed Paul Wilkinson som years later for £325k it was announced on Grandstand and i recall the thrill even today. I guess we are an example of why the rules are what they are today given the way that we used the multi club ownership thing. I do think the window system is ridiculous as it allows players to bid up their own worth knowing a club has to act within those restrictions - i am sure many a deal falls down on last day when the buying club having jumped through hoops to agree a deal with selling club is then faced by a greedy agent wanting ridiculous wages and signing on fees. It seems strange that the premise in the Bosman ruling of "unfair restriction of trade" does not also apply to windows - am sure UEA or someone else will know why. In answer to wfcwfc's question - Yes - we could have avoided the emergency loan rules by signing in the window on a different type of loan but i guess that did not suit Palarse. I am fairly sure that a loan converted to permanent never counts as a loan towards rules as well - so if hypothetically we had signed Bassong his loan would not count On the issue of numbers of loans - i cannot keep track on which of the sisters players are legally ours and which are loans - but Paredes / Toszer / Munari / Vydra are loans i think and we have had Andrews / Guedioura / Bassong from others - so (and i might misunderstand the loan rules) because i thought it was 4 over 23s and 4 unders in a season, with no more than 2 over 23s from a single club - and Vydra is the only youngster in that list - UEA can you help on that? - we can't have much loan capacity left but maybe those restrictions are "domestic"?? Might restrict the age of player we can loan in?? So yes Teide - it is well complex and the FA must have some good systems to monitor because it would seem to be easy to innocently get it wrong. By the way i am literally just up the road from you if you are in Bray - i am in Maidenhead!
Miserableoldgit I have sent you a private message but I believe you have said before that your matron wouldn't allow you access to them, didn't you also like me use to live in Denham. I remember when we signed Richard Hill, my late father rung me at work (something he never did) to inform me, again when we signed Gary Thompson (one xmas) it was on the tele and big big news. Now if they reported every signing they wouldn't have time for the adverts which is what most channels exsist for. The number of subs allowed has created the need for larger squads as in the last 30 years it has gone from 1 to 3 to 5 and now 7 ( remember in our greatest hour 1984 we only had one sub ) a Mr Paul Atkinson, I don't think he would get anywhere near our team today and Graham Taylor paid quite a lot of money for him as well.
We should just have brought Guerdioura with real money as he's proved an asset and is a lot better than some of the players we have on permanent contracts.
I know. Despite Pardew saying he's a fan of Guedioura I don't know why Gino didn't phone up Palace and just ask them to name their price. Simple as that.
I remember when there were NO subs. If you had an injury you played with 10 men. Then it was one sub for genuine injury up until 44th minute but GK at any time. Around the same time maximum wage was, I think 20 pounds with a 3 pound bonus for winning. Spurs bought Jimmy Greaves for 99,999 pounds because they did not want to set the precedent of paying a six figure sum. To me the big difference was affordability - admission was the equivalent of two or three pints of beer
In my day it was one sub and let's be clear, there were no sub goalies. If ours got injured it would be me that swapped my shirt for a green one (and though I don't like to trump my own horn, I was actually far better than our regular keeper).
GT didn't willingly pay a lot of money for Atkinson. Oldham wanted more than we offered, it went to a tribunal, and the tribunal awarded Oldham more money than they had originally asked for. Turned out GT's valuation was the closest to what Atkinson was really worth.
