2023/24 Season Predictions

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by simpleMASH, Jul 31, 2023.

  1. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    League position: 18th
    Promoted?: Not if we finish 18th
    Player of the Season: SkylaRose
    Top Scorer: wfcmoog
    Best Newcomer: Not awarded
    Flop of the Season: Pozzo, G
    Worst Disciplinary Record: Bayat, M
    FA Cup: Third Round (Oil State Sportswashers)
    League Cup: First round
    Number of Head Coaches: 4 (6 including interims)
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: October
    Will we score a shot in the foot? Yes
     
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  2. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Nobody expected my sister to pass her maths GCSE. She didn’t. Just because it wasn’t a surprise, it was still a failure.
     
  3. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Your statement misleadingly relies on the double meaning of the word 'failure' in also referring to the specific, arbitrary grade you can be assigned.

    You could rather say that she simply achieved whatever mark it was which was expected of her, e.g. around 25/100 points. She achieved par for what was expected of her.

    Perhaps it was even expected that she would have achieved an even worse amount of points, eg 20/100 points, in which case 30/100 might have been a decent result for her, regardless of the mark.

    To build upon your analogy: if a pupil is generally considered smart and is aiming to get in to a top University to study maths, they may target and be expected to get an A grade in maths. If they subsequently get a B grade then for that pupil it is a failure (even though they did not get an F in the exam).

    As an additional aside, the term 'flop' could also be said to suggest not only failing, but also dropping. To drop you have to fall below your original position. If you are originally at a position of being and being expected to be crap, and you remain at the same level - you are remaining at the same level; you have not dropped from one state to a lower state.

    With Livermore, if he is only brought in to be a 'D' grade, or maybe 5/10 level occasional performer, and if he is only paid as a 'D' grade level performer, then he won't have failed if he plays as a 'D' grade performer. If he instead plays as an 'E' grade, say 4/10 level performer, he could be said to have flopped or failed relative to what was expected.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2023
  4. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    League position: 16th
    Promoted?: No way
    Player of the Season: Jamal Lewis
    Top Scorer: Bayo 11 ( Healeys knees bound to go early on)
    Best newcomer: Jamal Lewis
    Flop of the season: Ince ( never fit)
    Worst disciplinary record: Definitely Morelos otherwise Hoedt
    FA Cup: 4th round
    League Cup: 2nd round
    Number of head coaches: 3
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: October , no later.
    Will we score a direct free kick?: Yes on the last day in a meaningless game.
     
  5. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    League position: 6th
    Promoted?: No.
    Player of the Season: Asprilla
    Top Scorer: Martins (10)
    Best newcomer: Healey
    Flop of the season: Dele-Bashiru
    Worst disciplinary record: Wesley Hoedt
    FA Cup: 3rd round
    League Cup: 3rd round
    Number of head coaches: 2
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: November
    Will we score a direct free kick?: Yes. We will also lose that game
     
  6. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    K
     
  7. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    League position: 14th
    Promoted?: No.
    Player of the Season: Kone (but Porteous will win the vote)
    Top Scorer: Healey
    Best newcomer: Healey
    Flop of the season: Hoedt
    Worst disciplinary record: Sierralta
    FA Cup: 3rd round
    League Cup: 2nd round
    Number of head coaches: 2
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: January
    Will we score a direct free kick? Yes
     
  8. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I like this pick, he certainly had his moments last season, but did look like a fish out of water at times too, although that's not too surprising considering he was a kid who came all the way from Canada mid-season to an absolute clown show. Hopefully with a bit more experience under his belt, and with a manager with a clear philosophy, he'll shine
     
  9. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    It's a big punt and probably more in hope than expectation for the reasons you set out above!
     
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  10. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    League position: 12th
    Promoted?: No
    Player of the Season: Sierralta
    Top Scorer: Bayo (9) - though if we sign another #9 of the profile of Morelos, Kaba, Nsame then them with c. 13
    Best newcomer: Lewis
    Flop of the season: Healey. I'd also mention Porteous considering he's still a recent addition and a lot here seem to have very high expectations which I don't think he'll get close to.
    Worst disciplinary record: Sierralta
    FA Cup: Don't care - play the academy players, get knocked out early
    League Cup: Don't care - play the academy players, get knocked out early
    Number of head coaches: 1
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: Won't be
    Will we score a direct free kick?: Yes

    24ish hours left now for others to add their predictions.
     
  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    From the limited footage available he seemed one of our sharpest players in pre-season. If he manages to continue that in to the season proper then it's not the worst shout.
     
  12. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    1) Leeds
    2) Leicester
    3) Southampton
    4) Boro
    5) Millwall
    6) Sunderland
    7) Ipswich
    8) Coventry
    9) Swansea
    10) Stoke
    11) West Brom
    12) Norwich
    13) Preston
    14) Bristol City
    15) Brum
    16) Orns
    17) Blackburn
    18) Hull
    19) Plymouth
    20 Cardiff
    21) Huddersfield
    22) Sheffield Wednesday
    23) QPR
    24) Rotherham
     
  13. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    As a CB or a DM? ;)
     
  14. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Whichever.
     
  15. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    League position: 8th
    Promoted?: No.
    Player of the Season: Imran Louza
    Top Scorer: I’ll gamble a new number 9 (12)
    Best newcomer: Jamal Lewis (as it stands)
    Flop of the season: Livermore (I think Asprilla may flatter to deceive as well - but hope not!)
    Worst disciplinary record: Francisco Sierralta
    FA Cup: 4th round
    League Cup: 2nd round
    Number of head coaches: 1
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: NA
    Will we score a direct free kick?: Yes
     
  16. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    League position: 12th
    Promoted?: No.
    Player of the Season: Martins
    Top Scorer: Healey - 14
    Best newcomer: Healey
    Flop of the season: Ince
    Worst disciplinary record: Hoedt
    FA Cup: 4th round
    League Cup: 3rd round
    Number of head coaches: 2
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: December
    Will we score a direct free kick?: No
     
  17. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Bayo - 13 goals. Jesus....
     
  18. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Squad Player

    You got the best newcomer right….he still hasn’t signed
     
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  19. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    My picks for top scorer and best player aren't even at the club anymore looooool. Have we scored a direct free kick in the league? Only one that springs to mind is Martins vs Southampton
     
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  20. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    16th isn't looking a terrible shout now! Bottom 4 was quite obvious, Stoke struggling so much wasn't, Millwall might finally look like a playoff team under Harris. Hull have surprised me, other than that, it's all a bit predictable
     
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  21. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    To my credit, the league pos. is panning out at least. Number of head coaches was a bit far of the mark. Everything else poorly predicted.
     
  22. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist

    Reckon I'm spot on.
     
  23. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    better late than never

    League position: 14th or 15th
    Promoted?: No
    Player of the Season: Hoedt
    Top Scorer: Rajovic
    Best newcomer: Chakvetadze - with 1 goal
    Flop of the season: Healey
    Worst disciplinary record: Hoedt
    FA Cup: 4th Round
    League Cup: 1st Round
    Number of head coaches: 1 full time, 1 caretaker
    Month Valerian Ismael will be sacked: March
    Will we score a direct free kick?: Yes & From a corner


    Interesting to see how we thought the season would go though
     
  24. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    A lot of shouts for Livermore to the flop of the season and Lewis to be the best newcomer - and they have been completely the other way round.

    Interested to see if anyone takes a chance on Lewis next season given how woeful he has been. Also intrigued by Louza and see where he ends up. Many expected him to be a key player this season, me included.
     
  25. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Good points. It's a shame that Livermore cannot get into Clev's team but I guess he has his reasons and it's probably the new system we are playing. He's a been a surprise package this season whereas Lewis has been pony bar one game. It seems we have a fair few bench warmers right now too. Grieves was stated to get more game time but has since only made the sub bench.

    It seems pretty clear where the club stand on Ince as well.
     
  26. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    lol.
     
  27. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    To be fair to Healy, he did score a couple when he started getting starts :)
     
  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    He started once for us against QPR where he definitely didn't score...
     
  29. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Oh I was referring to the goals he did get against Blackurn etc. Yes he was poor but he offered something different, and we will always have his long throws...
     
  30. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Healy was crap and slow. Great throw though.
     

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