[RUMOUR] Stefano Okaka

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  1. WatfordTalk

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    But you don’t know what happened!
     
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    I've apologised for things I didn't do, you look straight at your boss, imagine him with his pants round his ankles taking a big dump, and say I'm sorry for xxxx. Clears the air and restores the status quo.
    Alternately Okaka may be crap and gobby in training, like you say I don't know what happened and I guess neither do any of those defending him either.
     
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    Evidence? Where?
     
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    The bar is low but the control under pressure, turn and pass inside the full back that led to the goal against Swansea was the best bit of centre forward link up play we've seen all season. He clearly can't last a whole game (he was good in the first 15-20 minutes of each half before fading) but when's he's been on the pitch he's been better than the other two options this season. He's a bit crap, but he's just a bit less crap than the others.
     
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    FFS all I've seen so far in Jan is who might go not a sniff of incoming

    Mitrovich is up for £15 mil at Newcastle, worth a punt
     
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    You have a perfectly good opinion, and frankly, you may not be that far from the truth of the matter - who knows. But why insist on supporting it by denying what everyone else can see for themselves, and have been discussing for the last month or so?

    Okaka not being played despite being minute for minute and goals per minute our most effective striker, does not prove Silva has been fair to him; but without being explicit about the cause, it does indicate that there is an issue between the two of them (of whatever nature), which Silva has confirmed, and it is fair for fans to speculate that the situation may have been detrimental to the team's performances that the coach has taken that stance on the matter.

    Different opinions are excellent, but denying what everyone can see for themselves, even if you place no value on it, undermines your opinion, and invites rancor by, as you did above, refuting everything that people have carefully described and discussed as if it was never said. You know what people have said, you know what the evidence is and where it is. By all means disagree with the conclusions, but please don't just dismiss everyone else's opinions as if they were never explained .
     
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    Yeah. We definitely need to import more red cards into this squad. That's exactly what we're missing.
     
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    Hairyfrog? That was you ? You didn't mean it....and that's why you were giggling as you apologised ? Don't bother coming in this morning, other than to drop your keys and cards off with security.
     
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    But I haven’t refuted anything that anyone has said that is reasonable? I have openly admitted that he didn’t deserve to get dropped after the opening day against Liverpool. I have openly admitted that he was a big positive in turning the game around against Leicester. I have openly admitted that he deserved to therefore start against Swansea.

    But irrefutably, it has been said by Silva that there was an issue with Okaka that everyone at the club knows about and that is why he wasn’t playing. We don’t know what it is. But it has been openly referenced.

    So if there is a known issue, everyone knows about it, then I just cannot see anywhere in this where Okaka has been treated unfairly.

    I agree, if Okaka was a 20-PL goals a season striker, I may wish that Silva would suck it up and play him. But he isn’t. So I back the manager on this one. I have no problem with you backing Okaka.
     
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    Agent touting him to France now...
     
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    When you asked where is the evidence, I was not saying he had been treated unfairly, I was saying that I believed we could have beneffitted from Silva being more inclusive with Okaka. From your post above, it appears you agree with that to some extent or other.

    I was not saying Okaka was being treated unfairly, just that I felt the team could possibly have benefitted from his inclusion, and that I felt Silva was being stubborn, expressing a fair conclusion based on the situation you yourself describe above.

    I am afraid you are having the wrong argument. I may suspect Okaka is being treated unfairly, but that is a long way away from the point I was making, which you seem to have some understanding of.
     
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    My apologies, it was someone else who said he had been treated poorly and my response was more aimed in that direction!
     
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    Okaka’s agent is best mates with Vydra’s agent. Pass it on...
     
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    No probs. You are a proper gent.
     
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    Even Torino don’t want him! Looks like we’re stuck with him
     
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    Has this chubby lump left yet?
     
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    Trust me on this I play fifa , go to games and read the sports pages

    I'm highly qualified
     
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    Can't understand why he is not playing on a regular basis for us, and definitely don't understand why we want rid of him :confused:
     
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    Just a quick google of ‘Stefano Okaka attitude’ and the very first article is about Anderlecht openly criticising his condition and attitude: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ka-considers-move-after-anderlecht-treatment/
    It still doesn’t confirm what the issue is between him and Silva of course, but it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to speculate that he has a poor attitude to training and doesn’t react very well to criticism.

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    Second page on goggle: https://www.football-italia.net/61443/sampdoria-confirm-okaka-incident
    Sent home from training after an incident with the manager.

    So the guy clearly has a consistent track record of being publicly critisiced by his clubs and falling out with their managers, but people still think it’s Silva being stubborn for no reason at all?
     
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    Best striker we’ve ever had an’all. Must’ve done something out of order on the team coach
     
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    What, while the team coach was sleeping ? If so I understand why MS hasn't played him.
     
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    Just been announced on SSN that Besiktas want him, if true I really hope that we have some new strikers lined up.
     
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    Well we're not going to let anyone go from a threadbare squad without having a replacement lined up are we.
     
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    Well we'd hope so. I still believe he has so much to offer us.
     
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    You'll be missed Stefano

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    Best case scenario if he's going to leave. Help out Slav and won't help any of our rivals.
     
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    Slav back on speaking terms with Pozzo.

    Interesting.
     
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    Not seen or heard anything on this!
     
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    Okaka leaving? Good god, he ain't great, but he gives me hope each time he plays. Can only mean either that the Priory have broken the Success Baileys problem Or we are getting a proper forward in.
     
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    Misplaced hope. He’s a bulldozer with the occasional Cryuff turn. He not much worse than what we have but he’s no better for sure.

    I just want us to sign a striker that we can all unite behind who doesn’t divide opinion with fans.
     
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